Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

[RozzySean]

Meh, I didn't even celebrate Reagan's death but to each his own I guess. I do believe you should say about dead people what you did when they were alive. Seriously though I doubt you care that much about Chappaquiddick really.

To me he was the greatest of the Kennedy brothers. Not a big fan of JFK or Bobby really.

I would literally dance on Reagan's grave if I got the chance.

Well, that's not true. But I have nothing good to say about him.

That's just as bad as what Lyle said about Kennedy. He made some bad foreign policy decisions based on a faulted domino theory, but he was dead on right about ending the cold war by outspending the Soviets. He also restored confidence in ourselves and our nation for many Americans, and his economic policy in hindsight worked out well. He was a very good diplomat. In one of the great ironies of politics, the "conservative" Reagan used mass government spending in the defense industry to stimulate the economy. It was pure John Maynard Keynes. The idea was the when the economy rebounded, we could pay back the debt, and it happened exactly like that.

[CFH]

Meh, I didn't even celebrate Reagan's death but to each his own I guess. I do believe you should say about dead people what you did when they were alive. Seriously though I doubt you care that much about Chappaquiddick really.

To me he was the greatest of the Kennedy brothers. Not a big fan of JFK or Bobby really.

I would literally dance on Reagan's grave if I got the chance.

Well, that's not true. But I have nothing good to say about him.

That's just as bad as what Lyle said about Kennedy. He made some bad foreign policy decisions based on a faulted domino theory, but he was dead on right about ending the cold war by outspending the Soviets. He also restored confidence in ourselves and our nation for many Americans, and his economic policy in hindsight worked out well. He was a very good diplomat. In one of the great ironies of politics, the "conservative" Reagan used mass government spending in the defense industry to stimulate the economy. It was pure John Maynard Keynes. The idea was the when the economy rebounded, we could pay back the debt, and it happened exactly like that.

Of course it it. I'm just trying to piss off Lyle because he's being a hypocrite by starting this very "uncouth" thread, something he tried to have Kirkland banned for.

I make a point of staying away from political arguments/discussions on here these days because nothing good ever comes of them which is why I won't bother arguing with you about Reagan.

[RozzySean]

I like the international perspective when I talk politics here. I also feel the need to be reasonable voice between Lyle (who seems to be moving more and more to the right) and large contingency of people on the left and far left.

[CFH]

I like the international perspective when I talk politics here. I also feel the need to be reasonable voice between Lyle (who seems to be moving more and more to the right) and large contingency of people on the left and far left.

I used to enjoy discussing these types of things on here, but I've found that people (including myself) tend to get far too worked up over it. I do enjoy having these types of discussions with people in real life, so maybe it's just the medium that's the issue for me.

I do enjoy reading other peoples opinions though, even if they're directly opposed to my own. I find it gives me perspective and either strengthens my own views or forces my to justify them.

[generalbulldog]

I usually don't get into this types of discussions here since I come here mainly for boxing talk. But Jazmerkin is right, it seems a little bit tasteless to revel in someone's death whether or not you agree with their political affiliations or not.

As someone pointed out, if Reagan had died this year and someone boastfully brag and cheer about it, it would still be considered extremely distasteful.

[El Kabong]

That's because Reagan was a decent guy

[RozzySean]

That's because Reagan was a decent guy

Well, sure, once you forget that his policies in Nicaragua and El Savador (and other Latin Countries) were responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in support of corrupt fascist regimes. He probably could have saved us some trouble if he would have understood the big picture in Afghanistan.

Oh, and that whole Iran-Contra thing. I'm sure he knew nothing about that. It was all Ollie North.

As I recall, Reagan's deregulation has a little to do with the S and L debacle.

You can completely vilify in for this stuff. Or you can have some perspective.

Of course you'll have to have the last word. Teddy and Reagan were both great Americans. They had different visions and ideologies, but they both tried to do what was best for the country. At the end of the day, Reagan was responsible for the deaths of more innocent people than the Son of Sam, but that's part of being president sometimes. He thought he was doing right.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I usually don't get into this types of discussions here since I come here mainly for boxing talk. But Jazmerkin is right, it seems a little bit tasteless to revel in someone's death whether or not you agree with their political affiliations or not.

As someone pointed out, if Reagan had died this year and someone boastfully brag and cheer about it, it would still be considered extremely distasteful.

Really? See the place go mental when Khan/Warren etc kick it.