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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    I like the international perspective when I talk politics here. I also feel the need to be reasonable voice between Lyle (who seems to be moving more and more to the right) and large contingency of people on the left and far left.

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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    I like the international perspective when I talk politics here. I also feel the need to be reasonable voice between Lyle (who seems to be moving more and more to the right) and large contingency of people on the left and far left.
    I used to enjoy discussing these types of things on here, but I've found that people (including myself) tend to get far too worked up over it. I do enjoy having these types of discussions with people in real life, so maybe it's just the medium that's the issue for me.

    I do enjoy reading other peoples opinions though, even if they're directly opposed to my own. I find it gives me perspective and either strengthens my own views or forces my to justify them.

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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    I usually don't get into this types of discussions here since I come here mainly for boxing talk. But Jazmerkin is right, it seems a little bit tasteless to revel in someone's death whether or not you agree with their political affiliations or not.

    As someone pointed out, if Reagan had died this year and someone boastfully brag and cheer about it, it would still be considered extremely distasteful.

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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    That's because Reagan was a decent guy

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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    That's because Reagan was a decent guy
    Well, sure, once you forget that his policies in Nicaragua and El Savador (and other Latin Countries) were responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in support of corrupt fascist regimes. He probably could have saved us some trouble if he would have understood the big picture in Afghanistan.

    Oh, and that whole Iran-Contra thing. I'm sure he knew nothing about that. It was all Ollie North.

    As I recall, Reagan's deregulation has a little to do with the S and L debacle.

    You can completely vilify in for this stuff. Or you can have some perspective.

    Of course you'll have to have the last word. Teddy and Reagan were both great Americans. They had different visions and ideologies, but they both tried to do what was best for the country. At the end of the day, Reagan was responsible for the deaths of more innocent people than the Son of Sam, but that's part of being president sometimes. He thought he was doing right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Well, sure, once you forget that his policies in Nicaragua and El Savador (and other Latin Countries) were responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in support of corrupt fascist regimes. He probably could have saved us some trouble if he would have understood the big picture in Afghanistan.

    Oh, and that whole Iran-Contra thing. I'm sure he knew nothing about that. It was all Ollie North.

    As I recall, Reagan's deregulation has a little to do with the S and L debacle.

    You can completely vilify in for this stuff. Or you can have some perspective.

    Of course you'll have to have the last word. Teddy and Reagan were both great Americans. They had different visions and ideologies, but they both tried to do what was best for the country. At the end of the day, Reagan was responsible for the deaths of more innocent people than the Son of Sam, but that's part of being president sometimes. He thought he was doing right.
    ....did Ronald Reagan personally kill anyone?

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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ....did Ronald Reagan personally kill anyone?
    did Hitler? or Charles Manson?

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    Default Re: Ted Kennedy was a bastard and now he's dead!

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I usually don't get into this types of discussions here since I come here mainly for boxing talk. But Jazmerkin is right, it seems a little bit tasteless to revel in someone's death whether or not you agree with their political affiliations or not.

    As someone pointed out, if Reagan had died this year and someone boastfully brag and cheer about it, it would still be considered extremely distasteful.
    Really? See the place go mental when Khan/Warren etc kick it.

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