Gives me great pleasure to say this** IMO**

[Rantcatrat]

Whatever to all of you

Ahhh JT, you know that not everyone is going to agree with you, that's what this place is all about.

We all have different things that we look for in a fighter, and therefore, our standards of how to place a fighter is viewed very differently. You see him as number one, some of us don't. Simple as that.

As for me, you know I'm just busting your balls.

I dont have an issue with people being in agreement and I am certainly far from " The all knowing JT" Nor have I ever made such a proclomation. What had me adgitated was the fact mayweather came back from an almost 2 year layoff and wiped out JMM to the point where he landed only 69 punches in a 12 round fight utilizing over 200 landed jabs and defense. I dont think having JMM as a comeback fight warrants all the denigrating talk thats been going around, simple as that.

It cracks me up people will say Floyd only fights small guys, really no one wanted to see the Hatton fight? Bullshit!! that was one of the most talked about supposed dream match for years and then JMM calls Floyd out and he makes that his comeback fight and all of a sudden Floyd picks on smaller guys

Then people say he should fight Shane now and he is a pu$$y if he dosent, meanwhile where was Shane the 2x Floyd called him out? Exactly... But people lauded Shane and Hop for disrespecting Floyd and grandstanding during his interview, saying Shanes a stand up guy and good for him although Mosely was implicated in the Balco scandal for Roids and blood doping for the Oscar fight

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

[JT Rock]

Ahhh JT, you know that not everyone is going to agree with you, that's what this place is all about.

We all have different things that we look for in a fighter, and therefore, our standards of how to place a fighter is viewed very differently. You see him as number one, some of us don't. Simple as that.

As for me, you know I'm just busting your balls.

I dont have an issue with people being in agreement and I am certainly far from " The all knowing JT" Nor have I ever made such a proclomation. What had me adgitated was the fact mayweather came back from an almost 2 year layoff and wiped out JMM to the point where he landed only 69 punches in a 12 round fight utilizing over 200 landed jabs and defense. I dont think having JMM as a comeback fight warrants all the denigrating talk thats been going around, simple as that.

It cracks me up people will say Floyd only fights small guys, really no one wanted to see the Hatton fight? Bullshit!! that was one of the most talked about supposed dream match for years and then JMM calls Floyd out and he makes that his comeback fight and all of a sudden Floyd picks on smaller guys

Then people say he should fight Shane now and he is a pu$$y if he dosent, meanwhile where was Shane the 2x Floyd called him out? Exactly... But people lauded Shane and Hop for disrespecting Floyd and grandstanding during his interview, saying Shanes a stand up guy and good for him although Mosely was implicated in the Balco scandal for Roids and blood doping for the Oscar fight

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

People will say Baldo was a weak Champ, and I agree 100000% but none the less he wasnt a fringe nabo or any other single title holder. He was considered the lineal Champ. Then he fought Oscar for bocu bucks and Hatton for a bizillion dollars too..

No fighter in the History of the sport would have turned down those 2 paydays against DLH and Hatton, no one!! DLH and Baldo enjoyed big damn advantages size wise. He retires, takes a break then takes a get my feet wet agin fight with JMM. So how does Floyd all of a sudden make a career out of fighting smaller guys?

Floyd should be judged adversly on his next few fights if they are against subpar guys who have no business at the weight, but its ridiculous people would go apeshit for making 2 of the richest fights in this era and then taking on JMM albeit a smaller version just to get his feet wet.

Then you have a guy like Hopkins who's biggest wins were against smaller fighters but yet his ass is kissed royally.

Trinidad
DLH
Wright
Pavlik
Etc.

Then he gets beat by Calzaghe who made a career out of 168.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I dont have an issue with people being in agreement and I am certainly far from " The all knowing JT" Nor have I ever made such a proclomation. What had me adgitated was the fact mayweather came back from an almost 2 year layoff and wiped out JMM to the point where he landed only 69 punches in a 12 round fight utilizing over 200 landed jabs and defense. I dont think having JMM as a comeback fight warrants all the denigrating talk thats been going around, simple as that.

It cracks me up people will say Floyd only fights small guys, really no one wanted to see the Hatton fight? Bullshit!! that was one of the most talked about supposed dream match for years and then JMM calls Floyd out and he makes that his comeback fight and all of a sudden Floyd picks on smaller guys

Then people say he should fight Shane now and he is a pu$$y if he dosent, meanwhile where was Shane the 2x Floyd called him out? Exactly... But people lauded Shane and Hop for disrespecting Floyd and grandstanding during his interview, saying Shanes a stand up guy and good for him although Mosely was implicated in the Balco scandal for Roids and blood doping for the Oscar fight

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

People will say Baldo was a weak Champ, and I agree 100000% but none the less he wasnt a fringe nabo or any other single title holder. He was considered the lineal Champ. Then he fought Oscar for bocu bucks and Hatton for a bizillion dollars too..

No fighter in the History of the sport would have turned down those 2 paydays against DLH and Hatton, no one!! DLH and Baldo enjoyed big damn advantages size wise. He retires, takes a break then takes a get my feet wet agin fight with JMM. So how does Floyd all of a sudden make a career out of fighting smaller guys?

Floyd should be judged adversly on his next few fights if they are against subpar guys who have no business at the weight, but its ridiculous people would go apeshit for making 2 of the richest fights in this era and then taking on JMM albeit a smaller version just to get his feet wet.

Then you have a guy like Hopkins who's biggest wins were against smaller fighters but yet his ass is kissed royally.

Trinidad
DLH
Wright
Pavlik
Etc.

Then he gets beat by Calzaghe who made a career out of 168 .

100% agreed...always thought bernard should thank roy jones for his career..because roy left the division. but Bhop did beat Tarver for the LHW crown..

Oh wait Tarver was super weight drained.

[sumkalambay]

Hopkins is greater than PBF, like it or not.

he has the better resume and showed the same level of ring dominance.

[JT Rock]

Hopkins is greater than PBF, like it or not.

he has the better resume and showed the same level of ring dominance.

I guess you somehow dispute the above referenced validity Hopkins biggest wins over significantly smaller guys?

I think Nard had a great career and I appreciate all he has done, but I am barking up his tree to illustrate how Floyd is getting ripped on for fighting Hatton and JMM and then all of a sudden given the circumstances involved he is labeled as a big mean school yard bully who only picks on smaller fighters?

Yet Hopkins did it at just about every big fight in his career. Just dosent add up and thats all I was pointing out.

[sumkalambay]

he still dominated Johnson and Tarver.

trinidad actually proved himself a top fighter by whooping Joppy. the hopkins-trinidad fight is as good as the sweet science gets.

[JT Rock]

he still dominated Johnson and Tarver.

trinidad actually proved himself a top fighter by whooping Joppy. the hopkins-trinidad fight is as good as the sweet science gets.

Certainly your not going to suggest Tito at 160 was anywere near the hall of Fame legacy he forged at 147 are you?

Tarver got Karma in his face by being drained from a heavy in Rocky Balboa.

Glen Johnson wasnt nearly as good at 160 than he was at 175 either..Glen was a construction worker/slash boxer until he got his big break against Jones

I would actually favor Johnson over Hop now at 175 based on Glens chin, workrate and constant pressure. Hop trying to spoil on the inside wouldnt deter Glen since he likes it messy on the inside. Hopkins enemic output would be his demise against Johnsons aggression and volume

[Pugilistic]

Hopkins is greater than PBF, like it or not.

he has the better resume and showed the same level of ring dominance.

I guess you somehow dispute the above referenced validity Hopkins biggest wins over significantly smaller guys?

I think Nard had a great career and I appreciate all he has done, but I am barking up his tree to illustrate how Floyd is getting ripped on for fighting Hatton and JMM and then all of a sudden given the circumstances involved he is labeled as a big mean school yard bully who only picks on smaller fighters?

Yet Hopkins did it at just about every big fight in his career. Just dosent add up and thats all I was pointing out.

I don't recall Hopkins accusing Mayweather as a fighter picking on smaller fighters.

In most of Hopkins big fights he was the underdog so i don't understand how you can accuse him of picking on smaller fighters when he wasn't supposed to beat them.

For example Trinidad,Wright and Pavlik were the favourites to beat Hopkins.

Trinidad was supposed to ko Hopkins, instead all he got was a 12 round schooling and his ass sent into retirement. That was when the weight excuses came along.

Wright was supposed to have too much workrate for the 42 year old Hopkins to deal with but instead Hopkins ends up outworking Wright to a close but clear decision. The weight excuse didn't come along till \wright had an L in his loss column.

Pavlik was supposed to have too much pressure and power for the old man Hopkins to handle but instead Pavlik gets the biggest ass whooping in his career and loses by a pure shut out. surprise surprise people mention how Pavlik shouldn't of moved up to 170 when it wasn't a problem before the fight no ? Pavlik's bad performance had nothing to do with the fact that Hopkins used lateral movement, constant angles, his sharp defense, quick counters and superior handspeed to totally stun Pavlik. no it wasn't was it.

Then there's the DLH fight who i am willing to admit wasn't the fair fight as Hopkins was simply too big for Oscar. One thing people due tend to forget though, is that they fought at a catchweight of 156 which was only two pounds shy of where DLH was natural at..... at that stage of his career.

then once you include his big win over Tarver ( he was weight drained right ? ), that wasn't the case before though as Tarver was the clear favourite to win.

After all of that include solid wins over Eastman, Echols, Lipsey and Johnson and you got a man with a great career.

[Julius Rain]

Hopkins is greater than PBF, like it or not.

he has the better resume and showed the same level of ring dominance.

I guess you somehow dispute the above referenced validity Hopkins biggest wins over significantly smaller guys?

I think Nard had a great career and I appreciate all he has done, but I am barking up his tree to illustrate how Floyd is getting ripped on for fighting Hatton and JMM and then all of a sudden given the circumstances involved he is labeled as a big mean school yard bully who only picks on smaller fighters?

Yet Hopkins did it at just about every big fight in his career. Just dosent add up and thats all I was pointing out.

I don't recall Hopkins accusing Mayweather as a fighter picking on smaller fighters.

In most of Hopkins big fights he was the underdog so i don't understand how you can accuse him of picking on smaller fighters when he wasn't supposed to beat them.

For example Trinidad,Wright and Pavlik were the favourites to beat Hopkins.

Trinidad was supposed to ko Hopkins, instead all he got was a 12 round schooling and his ass sent into retirement. That was when the weight excuses came along.

Wright was supposed to have too much workrate for the 42 year old Hopkins to deal with but instead Hopkins ends up outworking Wright to a close but clear decision. The weight excuse didn't come along till \wright had an L in his loss column.

Pavlik was supposed to have too much pressure and power for the old man Hopkins to handle but instead Pavlik gets the biggest ass whooping in his career and loses by a pure shut out. surprise surprise people mention how Pavlik shouldn't of moved up to 170 when it wasn't a problem before the fight no ? Pavlik's bad performance had nothing to do with the fact that Hopkins used lateral movement, constant angles, his sharp defense, quick counters and superior handspeed to totally stun Pavlik. no it wasn't was it.

Then there's the DLH fight who i am willing to admit wasn't the fair fight as Hopkins was simply too big for Oscar. One thing people due tend to forget though, is that they fought at a catchweight of 156 which was only two pounds shy of where DLH was natural at..... at that stage of his career.

then once you include his big win over Tarver ( he was weight drained right ? ), that wasn't the case before though as Tarver was the clear favourite to win.

After all of that include solid wins over Eastman, Echols, Lipsey and Johnson and you got a man with a great career.

plus bhop dominated his division, has floyd? bhop may have taken on smaller fighters then him but he took care of business unlike floyd. floyds division is filled with threats he aint have the balls to take care of.

[Mao's Favourite Starling]

[quote=JT Rock;789135]

I think Nard had a great career and I appreciate all he has done, but I am barking up his tree to illustrate how Floyd is getting ripped on for fighting Hatton and JMM and then all of a sudden given the circumstances involved he is labeled as a big mean school yard bully who only picks on smaller fighters?

Yet Hopkins did it at just about every big fight in his career. Just dosent add up and thats all I was pointing out.

There are some of us who think that Hopkins was a 'bully' too you know!

2 wrongs don't make a right!

[Rantcatrat]

I dont have an issue with people being in agreement and I am certainly far from " The all knowing JT" Nor have I ever made such a proclomation. What had me adgitated was the fact mayweather came back from an almost 2 year layoff and wiped out JMM to the point where he landed only 69 punches in a 12 round fight utilizing over 200 landed jabs and defense. I dont think having JMM as a comeback fight warrants all the denigrating talk thats been going around, simple as that.

It cracks me up people will say Floyd only fights small guys, really no one wanted to see the Hatton fight? Bullshit!! that was one of the most talked about supposed dream match for years and then JMM calls Floyd out and he makes that his comeback fight and all of a sudden Floyd picks on smaller guys

Then people say he should fight Shane now and he is a pu$$y if he dosent, meanwhile where was Shane the 2x Floyd called him out? Exactly... But people lauded Shane and Hop for disrespecting Floyd and grandstanding during his interview, saying Shanes a stand up guy and good for him although Mosely was implicated in the Balco scandal for Roids and blood doping for the Oscar fight

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

People will say Baldo was a weak Champ, and I agree 100000% but none the less he wasnt a fringe nabo or any other single title holder. He was considered the lineal Champ. Then he fought Oscar for bocu bucks and Hatton for a bizillion dollars too..

No fighter in the History of the sport would have turned down those 2 paydays against DLH and Hatton, no one!! DLH and Baldo enjoyed big damn advantages size wise. He retires, takes a break then takes a get my feet wet agin fight with JMM. So how does Floyd all of a sudden make a career out of fighting smaller guys?

Floyd should be judged adversly on his next few fights if they are against subpar guys who have no business at the weight, but its ridiculous people would go apeshit for making 2 of the richest fights in this era and then taking on JMM albeit a smaller version just to get his feet wet.

Then you have a guy like Hopkins who's biggest wins were against smaller fighters but yet his ass is kissed royally.

Trinidad
DLH
Wright
Pavlik
Etc.

Then he gets beat by Calzaghe who made a career out of 168.

I understand why (money as you pointed out) Floyd fought Hatton and DLH, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he hasn't faced an elite welterweight and he has campaigned at the weight for five years (Baldomir doesn't count, sorry). And he needed an easy match-up for his comeback fight so he chose Marquez. Fair enough. From this point going forward he needs to fight dominant guys at his weight class and if there aren't any dominant fighters at his weight class, then he should go up in weight, not down in weight, to look for them. That's all.

Hopkins v. PBF is a good question and deserves a whole thread.

One more thing, PBF may have reclaimed his p4p #1 spot from Pac, but Pac easily reclaims it if he beats Cotto (although I don't think he will).

[JT Rock]

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

People will say Baldo was a weak Champ, and I agree 100000% but none the less he wasnt a fringe nabo or any other single title holder. He was considered the lineal Champ. Then he fought Oscar for bocu bucks and Hatton for a bizillion dollars too..

No fighter in the History of the sport would have turned down those 2 paydays against DLH and Hatton, no one!! DLH and Baldo enjoyed big damn advantages size wise. He retires, takes a break then takes a get my feet wet agin fight with JMM. So how does Floyd all of a sudden make a career out of fighting smaller guys?

Floyd should be judged adversly on his next few fights if they are against subpar guys who have no business at the weight, but its ridiculous people would go apeshit for making 2 of the richest fights in this era and then taking on JMM albeit a smaller version just to get his feet wet.

Then you have a guy like Hopkins who's biggest wins were against smaller fighters but yet his ass is kissed royally.

Trinidad
DLH
Wright
Pavlik
Etc.

Then he gets beat by Calzaghe who made a career out of 168.

I understand why (money as you pointed out) Floyd fought Hatton and DLH, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he hasn't faced an elite welterweight and he has campaigned at the weight for five years (Baldomir doesn't count, sorry). And he needed an easy match-up for his comeback fight so he chose Marquez. Fair enough. From this point going forward he needs to fight dominant guys at his weight class and if there aren't any dominant fighters at his weight class, then he should go up in weight, not down in weight, to look for them. That's all.

Hopkins v. PBF is a good question and deserves a whole thread.

One more thing, PBF may have reclaimed his p4p #1 spot from Pac, but Pac easily reclaims it if he beats Cotto (although I don't think he will).

I agree that Baldo was shit, but that still didnt mean that we wasnt the lineal champ at 147.

I said the same thing, Floyd grabbed the money the fame and the accolades against Delahoya and Hatton just like everyother fighter would have done and already had done in that position. Cotto is doing the same vs Pac and Shane was in the mix jockying too for the money and the shot to pick off the sports PFP#1 fighter

[KalihiBoyHawaii]

Ahhh JT, you know that not everyone is going to agree with you, that's what this place is all about.

We all have different things that we look for in a fighter, and therefore, our standards of how to place a fighter is viewed very differently. You see him as number one, some of us don't. Simple as that.

As for me, you know I'm just busting your balls.

I dont have an issue with people being in agreement and I am certainly far from " The all knowing JT" Nor have I ever made such a proclomation. What had me adgitated was the fact mayweather came back from an almost 2 year layoff and wiped out JMM to the point where he landed only 69 punches in a 12 round fight utilizing over 200 landed jabs and defense. I dont think having JMM as a comeback fight warrants all the denigrating talk thats been going around, simple as that.

It cracks me up people will say Floyd only fights small guys, really no one wanted to see the Hatton fight? Bullshit!! that was one of the most talked about supposed dream match for years and then JMM calls Floyd out and he makes that his comeback fight and all of a sudden Floyd picks on smaller guys

Then people say he should fight Shane now and he is a pu$$y if he dosent, meanwhile where was Shane the 2x Floyd called him out? Exactly... But people lauded Shane and Hop for disrespecting Floyd and grandstanding during his interview, saying Shanes a stand up guy and good for him although Mosely was implicated in the Balco scandal for Roids and blood doping for the Oscar fight

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

Great post!

Pacquiao keeps fighting bigger guys like Oscar, Hatton, and now Cotto.

Fraud is Fraud. He keeps fighting jr. lightweights, lightweights, and jr WW.

How can you be P4P king when you're not even the champ at your own division and REFUSE NOW to take on the WW Champ, Mosley.

Everyone knows boxing is about style. Marquez is tailor made for Fraud, he stands in front of his opponent. He does not know how to attack, his forte is to lay back and wait for the attack.

Pacquiao would attack Fraud and punish him. There won't be any room for Fraud to move, he'll back him up against the ropes and hit his shoulders, arms, and skull. We all saw the power of Pacquiao in the Hatton fight. Marquez is a jr. lightweight, don't confuse him with Pacquiao at 140.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I dont have an issue with people being in agreement and I am certainly far from " The all knowing JT" Nor have I ever made such a proclomation. What had me adgitated was the fact mayweather came back from an almost 2 year layoff and wiped out JMM to the point where he landed only 69 punches in a 12 round fight utilizing over 200 landed jabs and defense. I dont think having JMM as a comeback fight warrants all the denigrating talk thats been going around, simple as that.

It cracks me up people will say Floyd only fights small guys, really no one wanted to see the Hatton fight? Bullshit!! that was one of the most talked about supposed dream match for years and then JMM calls Floyd out and he makes that his comeback fight and all of a sudden Floyd picks on smaller guys

Then people say he should fight Shane now and he is a pu$$y if he dosent, meanwhile where was Shane the 2x Floyd called him out? Exactly... But people lauded Shane and Hop for disrespecting Floyd and grandstanding during his interview, saying Shanes a stand up guy and good for him although Mosely was implicated in the Balco scandal for Roids and blood doping for the Oscar fight

Listen JT, Floyd is a dominant fighter. NO debate about that statement. The knock on him is that he has never faced a true, elite welterweight although he has fought at welterweight for the last 4 years. That will always be the knock on him. This debate was happening when Floyd retired two years ago and his domination over Marquez doesn't change anything because Marquez was another smaller fighter he dominated. I won't argue that Floyd may beat all the elite welterweights out there, but he hasn't fought one! Not a single one. And for a while, it was claimed to be the deepest division.

I would rather see Floyd wipe the floor with the elite welterweights than beat up guys who shouldn't fight above 140. Doing so will solidify his greatness.

Floyd will beat him, but at least Pacquiao is willing to be the smaller man and the underdog when going into his fights (he was smaller and the underdog against ODLH and was smaller than Hatton and will be against Cotto). Pacquiao is vulnerable. He takes risks. That is why people like him.

Great post!

Pacquiao keeps fighting bigger guys like Oscar, Hatton, and now Cotto.

Fraud is Fraud. He keeps fighting jr. lightweights, lightweights, and jr WW.

How can you be P4P king when you're not even the champ at your own division and REFUSE NOW to take on the WW Champ, Mosley.

Everyone knows boxing is about style. Marquez is tailor made for Fraud, he stands in front of his opponent. He does not know how to attack, his forte is to lay back and wait for the attack.

Pacquiao would attack Fraud and punish him. There won't be any room for Fraud to move, he'll back him up against the ropes and hit his shoulders, arms, and skull. We all saw the power of Pacquiao in the Hatton fight. Marquez is a jr. lightweight, don't confuse him with Pacquiao at 140.

Spoken like a true fanatic...Hard to see any of this considering pac is too small to pull this off against a bigger, better boxer. Floyd will stop manny. Although its a lose/lose for floyd and win/win for manny, but i dont think this will happen after cotto bashes manny in.