Gives me great pleasure to say this** IMO**

[JT Rock]

FLOYD MAYWEATHER PFP#1 again baby.. I dont want to hear the size bullshit baby, Pac weighed more for there fights at 130...

To me it was the defense and footwork and skill on a level this generation hasnt seen. Marquez was wiped out didnt win a second of a round.

That's a stupid thing to say.


People WERE criticising this match up the same as pac-cotto.
He did look good-was anyone really surprised by that?

Agreed. Mayweather is number 2 (like P4P lists mean jack shit) until he beats a more viable opponent. That being said, I do think he beats Mosley/Pacquiao or whoever else he fights next.

Cotto - Pac is a much more competitive and important fight than Mayweather - Marquez, though PBF was extremely impressive in his victory tonight.

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

[CFH]

That's a stupid thing to say.


People WERE criticising this match up the same as pac-cotto.
He did look good-was anyone really surprised by that?

Agreed. Mayweather is number 2 (like P4P lists mean jack shit) until he beats a more viable opponent. That being said, I do think he beats Mosley/Pacquiao or whoever else he fights next.

Cotto - Pac is a much more competitive and important fight than Mayweather - Marquez, though PBF was extremely impressive in his victory tonight.

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

[JT Rock]

Agreed. Mayweather is number 2 (like P4P lists mean jack shit) until he beats a more viable opponent. That being said, I do think he beats Mosley/Pacquiao or whoever else he fights next.

Cotto - Pac is a much more competitive and important fight than Mayweather - Marquez, though PBF was extremely impressive in his victory tonight.

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

[CFH]

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

That is not even close to being a fact. While Mayweather is clearly the better fighter (IMO), Pac has the superior resume.

The same arguments you're using work both ways and it's very flawed. Pac beat Marquez twice in two close fights, Floyd outclassed and shut out JMM (dare I say a less than prime JMM who was shop-worn from his fights with Pac, Casa, and Diaz); Floyd won a close-ish SD over ODH, Pacquiao destroyed him in a fight that might have even been less competitive than PBF - Marquez. None of that means anything really. The fact is, for the last two or three years, Pacquiao has accomplished far more than Mayweather, as such I would argue that he deserves to be ranked ahead of Floyd in any mythical P4P rankings as a result of that. Nothing you can say will change my mind.

[JT Rock]

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

That is not even close to being a fact. While Mayweather is clearly the better fighter (IMO), Pac has the superior resume.

The same arguments you're using work both ways and it's very flawed. Pac beat Marquez twice in two close fights, Floyd outclassed and shut out JMM (dare I say a less than prime JMM who was shop-worn from his fights with Pac, Casa, and Diaz); Floyd won a close-ish SD over ODH, Pacquiao destroyed him in a fight that might have even been less competitive than PBF - Marquez. None of that means anything really. The fact is, for the last two or three years, Pacquiao has accomplished far more than Mayweather, as such I would argue that he deserves to be ranked ahead of Floyd in any mythical P4P rankings as a result of that. Nothing you can say will change my mind.

Fair enough but dont suggest I'm foolish because you dont share the same opinion I have.. Nothing you can say will change my mind either

[CFH]

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

That is not even close to being a fact. While Mayweather is clearly the better fighter (IMO), Pac has the superior resume.

The same arguments you're using work both ways and it's very flawed. Pac beat Marquez twice in two close fights, Floyd outclassed and shut out JMM (dare I say a less than prime JMM who was shop-worn from his fights with Pac, Casa, and Diaz); Floyd won a close-ish SD over ODH, Pacquiao destroyed him in a fight that might have even been less competitive than PBF - Marquez. None of that means anything really. The fact is, for the last two or three years, Pacquiao has accomplished far more than Mayweather, as such I would argue that he deserves to be ranked ahead of Floyd in any mythical P4P rankings as a result of that. Nothing you can say will change my mind.

Fair enough but dont suggest I'm foolish because you dont share the same opinion I have.. Nothing you can say will change my mind either

Where did I say you were foolish? I merely agreed with Missy (which pains me more than you will ever know) who said that this didn't mean that PBF should be considered P4P #1.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

That is not even close to being a fact. While Mayweather is clearly the better fighter (IMO), Pac has the superior resume.

The same arguments you're using work both ways and it's very flawed. Pac beat Marquez twice in two close fights, Floyd outclassed and shut out JMM (dare I say a less than prime JMM who was shop-worn from his fights with Pac, Casa, and Diaz); Floyd won a close-ish SD over ODH, Pacquiao destroyed him in a fight that might have even been less competitive than PBF - Marquez. None of that means anything really. The fact is, for the last two or three years, Pacquiao has accomplished far more than Mayweather, as such I would argue that he deserves to be ranked ahead of Floyd in any mythical P4P rankings as a result of that. Nothing you can say will change my mind.

Fair enough but dont suggest I'm foolish because you dont share the same opinion I have.. Nothing you can say will change my mind either

Where did I say you were foolish? I merely agreed with Missy (which pains me more than you will ever know) who said that this didn't mean that PBF should be considered P4P #1.

you're off the BJ list

[Violent Demise]

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

That is not even close to being a fact. While Mayweather is clearly the better fighter (IMO), Pac has the superior resume.

The same arguments you're using work both ways and it's very flawed. Pac beat Marquez twice in two close fights, Floyd outclassed and shut out JMM (dare I say a less than prime JMM who was shop-worn from his fights with Pac, Casa, and Diaz); Floyd won a close-ish SD over ODH, Pacquiao destroyed him in a fight that might have even been less competitive than PBF - Marquez. None of that means anything really. The fact is, for the last two or three years, Pacquiao has accomplished far more than Mayweather, as such I would argue that he deserves to be ranked ahead of Floyd in any mythical P4P rankings as a result of that. Nothing you can say will change my mind.

How about Mayweather beat a fighter who beat Pacquiao twice

[Julius Rain]

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

but pac made the agreed weight.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

This is about as relevant to the JMM/PBF fight as what he ate for breakfast.

[leftylee]

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

De La Hoya was hardly "Fresh" going into the Mayweather fight. He was 34 years old and had fought 6 rounds in a year and 3 fights in 3 years. His stamina was poor and he faded in the fight. De La Hoya was done when Floyd got to him.

If Hatton was fresher in any fight it would have been the Pacquiao fight. He was fighting with a better trainer and at 140 pounds. Hatton never has and never will be a welterweight. Pacquiao KO'd him in 2 rounds at his best weight. Mayweather took 10 and Hatton weren't even at his natural fighting weight.

Pacquiao fought Marquez at the BEST weight available. And won both fights on the judges scorecards and knocked him down 4 times over the 2 fights. Floyd beat a bulked up Marquuez with a 4 pound weight advantage. Marquez was the smaller man and shouldn't have been fighting at that weight.

Your saying "Don't bring up the weight". King of contradicting yourself as you're bringing up weight issues yourself.

[DatsiK]

I don't get what the issue is with Floyd beating Marquez.. yet Pacquiao beating DLH is okay?

Either way you look at it.. Floyd still has the better resume and at the end of the day is STILL unbeaten, so #1 P4P is the only place you could possibly place him.

[KalihiBoyHawaii]

Just like DLH-Pac was soooooooooo signifigant?

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

Marquez was never the same after Pac put him to sleep walking in their second fight. Fraud beat up a smaller, older, and slower shadow of Marquez.

Pac fought Hatton at his most effective and natural weight and finished him in two rounds, Hatton was getting the best of Fraud at times.

Pac came from 130 to totally annihilate the much bigger Oscar who was favored to destroyed Pacquiao.

No credit given to Fraud in beating a 130 pounder who fought a middleweight.

Would you give Tyson credit if he KO'd Hopkins at heavyweight?
Shit, even an average WW would beat Marquez if his opponent is allowed to train at the maximum ww limit.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

What does that have to do with anything? Pac did not become the consensus P4P #1 based on that fight. Both fights were impressive victories, but Mayweather, in some respects, did what was expected; Pacquiao was expected to lose to ODH. Mayweather fought a great fight tonight, I was very impressed and I have dedicated a large amount of my posts tonight to defending and lauding him. However, what he did tonight in no way diminishes or surpasses Pacquaio's recent accomplishments in my opinion. I think PBF is the better fight but that Pac is more deserving of being P4P #1 at the moment (which just goes to show you how utterly useless and subjective P4P lists are).

Pac scavenged Floyds scraps, the facts are the facts man

Floyd fought and beat a fresher younger DLH at 154 giving up every advantage including glove type, ring size etc...

Manny beat a corpse of DLH

Floyd punished and KO'D a fresh hungry undefeated Hatton.

Pac KO'D beat a dented version who clearly wasnt the same physically or mentally.

Floyd just destroyed a guy Pac went life and death with 2x... Before anyone jumps on the weight train come fight night Pac weighed about 147 for their contest last time out..

Marquez was never the same after Pac put him to sleep walking in their second fight. Fraud beat up a smaller, older, and slower shadow of Marquez.

Pac fought Hatton at his most effective and natural weight and finished him in two rounds, Hatton was getting the best of Fraud at times.

Pac came from 130 to totally annihilate the much bigger Oscar who was favored to destroyed Pacquiao.

No credit given to Fraud in beating a 130 pounder who fought a middleweight.

Would you give Tyson credit if he KO'd Hopkins at heavyweight?
Shit, even an average WW would beat Marquez if his opponent is allowed to train at the maximum ww limit.

Pac, Pac, Pac. Do you want to come out the closet and tell us who you are before you get banned, again?

[Galaxy]

Floyds back on top imo, Pacquiao's achievements are amazing but Mayweather is the best fighter at the moment!

In saying that I would like to see him solidify that by taking risky challenges like the Pacquiao/ Cotto winner or Mosley

Marquez is a great fighter but those who choose him to win were hoping & wishing, whereas the majority knew Floyd would win, imo Mayweather now needs to make fights where there is a persona he could lose