Pacquiao and Marqez have no business fighting above 140 pounds against elite opp.

[Truth]

Pac & Marquez are too COMPLETELY DIFFERENT entities
One is a 36 yr old who is ending his career by looking small @ 135
The other is a 29 yr old who has physically matured and had his diet improve and has grown into a legit 140 lb fighter
The point is 147 lbs is 2 1/2 weightclasses past Juan's best and 1 past Manny's

[ElTerribleMorales]

Pac & Marquez are too COMPLETELY DIFFERENT entities
One is a 36 yr old who is ending his career by looking small @ 135
The other is a 29 yr old who has physically matured and had his diet improve and has grown into a legit 140 lb fighter
The point is 147 lbs is 2 1/2 weightclasses past Juan's best and 1 past Manny's

Pacquiao will be 31 by the end of the year, and has taken a lot more shots to the head than Marquez, and IMO will get sparked at 147 against Cotto

[brucelee]

I agree with the first post in this thread.

Going into 140 plus weight category is brave but really crazy for Pac and Marquez.

Honestly, I could hardly see Pac winning against Cotto. Considering that Pac is sort of underestimating this fight ( by having his training in the Philippines where there will be many distractions), I am more afraid for Pac now.

The PBF- MArquez fight is like a prelude to what will happen with Pac vs Cotto. Cotto will be too big for Pac just like PBF was too big for Marquez.

IMO, PBF is very skillful against Marquez but one thing that assured his victory was the inability of Marquez to truly hurt him.

[generalbulldog]

I agree with the first post in this thread.

Going into 140 plus weight category is brave but really crazy for Pac and Marquez.

Honestly, I could hardly see Pac winning against Cotto. Considering that Pac is sort of underestimating this fight ( by having his training in the Philippines where there will be many of distractions), I am more afraid for Pac now.

The PBF- MArquez fight is like a prelude to what will happen with Pac vs Cotto. Cotto will be too big for Pac just like PBF was too big for Marquez.

IMO, PBF is very skillful against Marquez but one thing that assured his victory was the inability of Marquez to truly hurt him.

So are you saying your boy is going to lose? BTW, you are right, Pac is underestimating Cotto and having his training in the Phillipines with the distractions. That's what happens when you have free loaders and hanger ons giving you bad advice. Cotto isn't shot and I don't think he will be weight drained like Oscar, and he isn't an 1 trick pony like Hatton.

Cotto by brutal ko.

[brucelee]

I agree with the first post in this thread.

Going into 140 plus weight category is brave but really crazy for Pac and Marquez.

Honestly, I could hardly see Pac winning against Cotto. Considering that Pac is sort of underestimating this fight ( by having his training in the Philippines where there will be many of distractions), I am more afraid for Pac now.

The PBF- MArquez fight is like a prelude to what will happen with Pac vs Cotto. Cotto will be too big for Pac just like PBF was too big for Marquez.

IMO, PBF is very skillful against Marquez but one thing that assured his victory was the inability of Marquez to truly hurt him.

So are you saying your boy is going to lose? BTW, you are right, Pac is underestimating Cotto and having his training in the Phillipines with the distractions. That's what happens when you have free loaders and hanger ons giving you bad advice. Cotto isn't shot and I don't think he will be weight drained like Oscar, and he isn't an 1 trick pony like Hatton.

Cotto by brutal ko.

Yeah, it's probable Pac would lose this fight. I have this feeling that he will not be prepared for the fight. With him in the Philippines, he will be going to parties, talkshow, advertisements,etc.

People would be coming over to his place and there will be no discipline there unless Roach would use an iron hand. It's rainy season in the Philippines now and Pac really won't be jogging in the rain with all the people watching him. His footwork and speed will suffer greatly in this fight. I have seen an ill-prepared Pacquaio crumble due to fatigue and I'm truly afraid for him.

IMO, Pacquaio is destined to fail in this fight unless the boxing mafia wants a Mayweather-Pac fight which would be very, very big in terms of money.

[generalbulldog]

I agree with the first post in this thread.

Going into 140 plus weight category is brave but really crazy for Pac and Marquez.

Honestly, I could hardly see Pac winning against Cotto. Considering that Pac is sort of underestimating this fight ( by having his training in the Philippines where there will be many of distractions), I am more afraid for Pac now.

The PBF- MArquez fight is like a prelude to what will happen with Pac vs Cotto. Cotto will be too big for Pac just like PBF was too big for Marquez.

IMO, PBF is very skillful against Marquez but one thing that assured his victory was the inability of Marquez to truly hurt him.

So are you saying your boy is going to lose? BTW, you are right, Pac is underestimating Cotto and having his training in the Phillipines with the distractions. That's what happens when you have free loaders and hanger ons giving you bad advice. Cotto isn't shot and I don't think he will be weight drained like Oscar, and he isn't an 1 trick pony like Hatton.

Cotto by brutal ko.

Yeah, it's probable Pac would lose this fight. I have this feeling that he will not be prepared for the fight. With him in the Philippines, he will be going to parties, talkshow, advertisements,etc.

People would be coming over to his place and there will be no discipline there unless Roach would use an iron hand. It's rainy season in the Philippines now and Pac really won't be jogging in the rain with all the people watching him. His footwork and speed will suffer greatly in this fight. I have seen an ill-prepared Pacquaio crumble due to fatigue and I'm truly afraid for him.

IMO, Pacquaio is destined to fail in this fight unless the boxing mafia wants a Mayweather-Pac fight which would be very, very big in terms of money.

I also heard Roach complaining of not getting into contact with Pac and that his hanger ons wouldn't let him get in touch with his pupil. That's the reason why I pick Cotto over Pacman, Cotto just seems hungrier at this point and more focused and with his natural size advantage. I don't know what's going on in Pacquiao's head to listen to leechers and freeloaders instead of the trainer that help got him to the top.

[Truth]

It sounds like we have 10 insiders in the Pac camp ahha
Pac like Maywetaher always has "distractions" in his camp don't buy into everything you hear Pac will be ready for Cotto

[Rantcatrat]

Pac & Marquez are too COMPLETELY DIFFERENT entities
One is a 36 yr old who is ending his career by looking small @ 135
The other is a 29 yr old who has physically matured and had his diet improve and has grown into a legit 140 lb fighter
The point is 147 lbs is 2 1/2 weightclasses past Juan's best and 1 past Manny's

So, we agree on Marquez, but disagree on Pacquiao. Fair. Who would Pacquiao beat out of the top fighters at 147?