Gives me great pleasure to say this** IMO**

[Pugilistic]

Tito going in total different direction from JMM with added weight & had legitimized himself at Middle with destruction of Champion Joppy....also I'm sure he was actually the favorite going in vs. Hopkins with a match with Roy Jones waiting in the wings.

seriously am I on another Fukin planet here? This isint about JMM, this is about how ALL OF YOUR GUYS REPOITRE of hate has the addition now of how Floyd is a guy who only fights Small guys So maybe Trinidad wasnt the best example, but now we'll ignore

Wright
Pavlik
Dlh
Calzaghe, who beat Hopkins.

etc.

I cant believe of all people Spicoli I gotta hammer this home repetitively to get you off of my ass too... Big deal he fought JMM after 21 months out of the ring, it was a comeback fight a litmus test for chrise sakes. then before that he took a bizillion dollar dream fight against Hatton, which for the preceding years was one of the most heated debates of this decade over who would win, this was a HUGE FIGHT WORLDWIDE... You guys were right though he should have skipped on all of that and fought Margarito who just had got beaten by a prospect at the time Paul Williams(using elterriblemorrales logic here since it seems to be the only thing working for all of you) or Cotto who already had a fight lined up with Mosely who all of you think he should have fought too even though they were both contracted to fight each other

Prior to all of that Floyd gave up size plenty.. Look at his career its littered with it

You clearly ignored my post.

And a side note on Calzaghe, Calzaghe was planning to move up to 175 for years, and was starting to find making 168 hard.

Calzaghe should of probably been a light heavyweight years before.

Hopkins never made any fighters move up, Those guys wanted a Hopkins fight and with his fights with Pavlik and Wright he had to come down 5 pounds at age 42/43.

I don't accuse Mayweather of picking on smaller guys by the way.

It was only two fights ago Mayweather was fighting a bigger DLH and just before that a bigger Baldomir.

[JT Rock]

Tito going in total different direction from JMM with added weight & had legitimized himself at Middle with destruction of Champion Joppy....also I'm sure he was actually the favorite going in vs. Hopkins with a match with Roy Jones waiting in the wings.

seriously am I on another Fukin planet here? This isint about JMM, this is about how ALL OF YOUR GUYS REPOITRE of hate has the addition now of how Floyd is a guy who only fights Small guys So maybe Trinidad wasnt the best example, but now we'll ignore

Wright
Pavlik
Dlh
Calzaghe, who beat Hopkins.

etc.

I cant believe of all people Spicoli I gotta hammer this home repetitively to get you off of my ass too... Big deal he fought JMM after 21 months out of the ring, it was a comeback fight a litmus test for chrise sakes. then before that he took a bizillion dollar dream fight against Hatton, which for the preceding years was one of the most heated debates of this decade over who would win, this was a HUGE FIGHT WORLDWIDE... You guys were right though he should have skipped on all of that and fought Margarito who just had got beaten by a prospect at the time Paul Williams(using elterriblemorrales logic here since it seems to be the only thing working for all of you) or Cotto who already had a fight lined up with Mosely who all of you think he should have fought too even though they were both contracted to fight each other

Prior to all of that Floyd gave up size plenty.. Look at his career its littered with it

You clearly ignored my post.

And a side note on Calzaghe, Calzaghe was planning to move up to 175 for years, and was starting to find making 168 hard.

Calzaghe should of probably been a light heavyweight years before.

Hopkins never made any fighters move up, Those guys wanted a Hopkins fight and with his fights with Pavlik and Wright he had to come down 5 pounds at age 42/43.

I don't accuse Mayweather of picking on smaller guys by the way.

It was only two fights ago Mayweather was fighting a bigger DLH and just before that a bigger Baldomir.

I dont believe I was directing anything toward you, as far as Calzaghe goes Hop could have gone to Lightheavy 7-8 years ago under his own admission

I hear what your saying about who what where and how, but they were still all smaller. Right? My post was directed more toward the guys who now claim Floyd is a bully who only fights smaller guys now.. I was simply making a comparison, not denigrating hops career

[Pugilistic]

seriously am I on another Fukin planet here? This isint about JMM, this is about how ALL OF YOUR GUYS REPOITRE of hate has the addition now of how Floyd is a guy who only fights Small guys So maybe Trinidad wasnt the best example, but now we'll ignore

Wright
Pavlik
Dlh
Calzaghe, who beat Hopkins.

etc.

I cant believe of all people Spicoli I gotta hammer this home repetitively to get you off of my ass too... Big deal he fought JMM after 21 months out of the ring, it was a comeback fight a litmus test for chrise sakes. then before that he took a bizillion dollar dream fight against Hatton, which for the preceding years was one of the most heated debates of this decade over who would win, this was a HUGE FIGHT WORLDWIDE... You guys were right though he should have skipped on all of that and fought Margarito who just had got beaten by a prospect at the time Paul Williams(using elterriblemorrales logic here since it seems to be the only thing working for all of you) or Cotto who already had a fight lined up with Mosely who all of you think he should have fought too even though they were both contracted to fight each other

Prior to all of that Floyd gave up size plenty.. Look at his career its littered with it

You clearly ignored my post.

And a side note on Calzaghe, Calzaghe was planning to move up to 175 for years, and was starting to find making 168 hard.

Calzaghe should of probably been a light heavyweight years before.

Hopkins never made any fighters move up, Those guys wanted a Hopkins fight and with his fights with Pavlik and Wright he had to come down 5 pounds at age 42/43.

I don't accuse Mayweather of picking on smaller guys by the way.

It was only two fights ago Mayweather was fighting a bigger DLH and just before that a bigger Baldomir.

I dont believe I was directing anything toward you, as far as Calzaghe goes Hop could have gone to Lightheavy 7-8 years ago under his own admission

I hear what your saying about who what where and how, but they were still all smaller. Right? My post was directed more toward the guys who now claim Floyd is a bully who only fights smaller guys now.. I was simply making a comparison, not denigrating hops career

Hopkins was bigger than Wright, Trinidad, etc just like Wright was bigger than Mosley, like Hagler was bigger than Duran. We can constantly use size to discredit fighters on someone's resume.

I don't agree with people saying Mayweather is a bully because although i didn't want him to fight Marquez because Marquez is my boy, i accept the fact that Mayweather had been out of the ring almost two years and needed to test his skills against a big name but someone who didn't provide alot of risk.

I severely disagree with you saying Mayweather is number 1 again though.

The version he fought of Marquez doesn't do it for me imo.

If he was to beat Mosley or Pacquiao, he would certainly reclaim his throne at the top but until then, he is number 2.

[C-Lo]

I'm with you JT!

I see what you were trying to say. It is a double standard because B-Hop is viewed as a phenom because he's so old yet still fighting at such a high level. Floyd on the other hand is looked at as a "brat" and a widely disliked figure so people will look at him with "tunnel vision."

Btw, I think Floyd needs to beat Pac or Pac lose to Cotto for Floyd to get #1 back.

I don't think there was ever much debate about who would the Hatton fight JT

I don't know wtf I was thinking when I thought Hatton had a shot there. Damn 24/7 and their cinematic techinques. The made me think Roy Jones was going to beat Calzaghe!