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Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
Everybody talks about fighters from the past , like foreman , frazier etc but i fail to see how Vitali couldn't have competed with these guys , not to mention he is a monster size wise.

I personally think we dismiss modern HW fighters all to easily , fact is if sprinters and pole vaulters , hammer throwers , weight lifters are all getting faster and stronger respectively. Then how are this new breed of HW worse than the fighters before ?

PS/ there will always be the odd special fighter , but in general , we think Ken Norton for example is better than a David Tua ?

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Norton has a claim to having beaten the 2 greatest HWs of all time. Lots of 'ifs and buts', but he certainly beat Ali once , maybe even 3 times and some (not me) think he beat Holmes. Could Tua have don ethat?
The point im making is fighters at HW are getting to huge sizes and some are also great athletes , improving to being more than just a huge size.
Styles do make fights also , in my opinion Tua would have KOED the dodgy chinned Norton early , does that Make Tua better than Ali ?

PS. Both Norton and Tua were just examples from past and present.

Im sorry but how the hell does anyone seriously believe tua beats norton!!

I fully agree that in certain instances current fighters arent given the same credit as their predeccesors. But Tua beating the great norton??

never in a million years!!