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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

    Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

    I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

    Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

    I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.
    That doesn't make it a robbery.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

    Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

    I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.
    That doesn't make it a robbery.
    You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    And one of the great post fight interviews. Malignaggi admits it was close, but he is right in that he did outbox Diaz. He says he was robbed too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnhWoFXgr0
    Last edited by Gandalf; 10-01-2009 at 02:46 AM. Reason: Issues spelling Malignaggi

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

    Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


    edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

    Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


    edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.
    Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

    I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

    I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.
    Last edited by CFH; 10-01-2009 at 03:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

    Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


    edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.
    Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

    I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

    I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.
    I miss the gay talk from you. LOL.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

    Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


    edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.
    Same here Bro, I remember those days when Juan was calling out Manny with a lady alongside the Baby Bull screaming WE WANT PACMAN, PACMAN. this kid belitlling Manny's accomplishments saying he beats up old champs. Now he has 2 losses vs much older competition and a very questionable win over Malignaggi whom Hatton just dominated, the Hatton that..............
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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Blah blah blah cry for Paulie

    It's one of those fights where a lot of the rounds were the same, Paulie did better then expected, he was fast, NOT SHARP (which people have called him sharp, it baffles me he almost never landed cleanly), danced on the outside and 10 seconds Diaz had on the inside he made up for 40 seconds Paulie had outside dancing doing nothing. Score that fight minute by minute, round by round (I don't care about commentary) and actually tell me that Paulie did the more meaninfgul work in the fight.

    Also, Diaz got almost no credit with the jab but in the rounds he won he had the better jab then Paulie most of the rounds. He was timing Malignaggi's jab perfectly as Paulie came in with it and was using it to do actual damage and set up his punches. Had the commentators spent 12 rounds gushing about the timing Diaz was doing with his jab and it's a different fight.

    IDK how Cotto-Clottey came up but that was the exact OPPOSITE as this fight imo. Clottey was the one imposing himself physically but just didn't know how to win individual rounds from a guy who's been doing that all his life. Flip the role here, Malignaggi gave the illusion that he might have been stealing rounds and winning rounds because of all the tassles he had on and did NO damage, just gave the illusion of damage with the cut on Diaz.

    Viva La Gale Von Hoye.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

    Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

    I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.
    That doesn't make it a robbery.
    You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.
    A close fight that could have gone either way by it's very definition is not a robbery. It has nothing to do with arguing semantics.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post

    That doesn't make it a robbery.
    You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.
    A close fight that could have gone either way by it's very definition is not a robbery. It has nothing to do with arguing semantics.
    Well, we will just have to agree to disagree on this fight then. It was a relatively close fight, but Malignaggi outworked Diaz down the stretch and fought the smarter fight for me. He deserved the win.

    I'm sure neither of us could disagree that a rematch would be a decent fight and that it would be fair to have it outside of Texas. It doesn't seem to be on the cards though.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post

    That doesn't make it a robbery.
    You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.
    A close fight that could have gone either way by it's very definition is not a robbery. It has nothing to do with arguing semantics.
    I thought it was a competitive fight, but with competent judging I can't really see how it could have gone either way.

    Paullie won that fight for sure, he simply won more rounds. It's only the appalling standards of boxing judging generally that allows for conjecture and subjective opinion when the fight is not a landslide win for one guy.

    I'm very suprised that anyone totalling up the rounds and scoring professionally could give that fight to Juan, who I thought was pretty badly exposed in that fight, against a non puncher who fought at a catchweight for him and came in dehydrated.

    Diaz is finished as a top level fighter, but hopefully Paullie will get another shot at a big name in the future.

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