Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

[brucelee]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

[Gandalf]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

[CFH]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

[brucelee]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

[amat]

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

[Gandalf]

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

I watched the fight this morning, so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I had it about the same as when I watched it live too. I have no idea how you scored it 8 rounds to 4 in favour of Diaz.

Malignaggi was able to do what he wanted more than what Diaz was able to do. Malignaggi was throwing 80-100 punches a round and though less accurate than Diaz was able to fight his own fight with his movement, sharp jab and quick combos. Malignaggi boxed the ears off Diaz down the stretch, though do I think the 12th went to Diaz. Malignaggi might have less power, but he dictated more of the rounds.

The judges were too busy listening to the will of the home crowd rather than trying to adjudicate a fair fight. The scorecards were way off.

[Spicoli]

Close fight and no robbery at all.118-110 was the only problem I believe.Two totally contrasting styles...pick your poison.One thing though is what is up with all of the ranting MMa ish interviews lately?Have some cooth.Paulie had a point but I'd rather listen to fingers running across a chalkboard.

[BoomBoom]

First off, Diaz im sure feels he won the fight and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. He should feel that way. Secondly, why should he give him a rematch? Just cause it was a close fight? Controversial fights are a a part of boxing. They happen every week, and for most there are not rematches. You take it for what it is and more on. Malignaggi didnt have a rematch with Ndougjo, Ndougjo never had one with Castilllo, Castillo never had one with Casamayor, Casa never did with Santa Cruz...I could do this all day. Paulie has to worry about Paulie, not Juan Diaz.

[Hunter]

I thought Malignaggi won the fight but I really dont care to see a rematch....maybe it was paulie's prior fights that soured me but i just dont like to watch him much.......

[ElTerribleMorales]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

[brucelee]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

There you go again. It's like vice-versa. MAyweather won't want Pac considering how PAc demolished HAtton easily and how MAyweather struggled with HAtton's style in the earlier rounds. This is boxing and anything can happen here considering that Pac and Mayweather are the best in boxing.

Floyd koed MArquez only once while Pac have done it thrice in their first fight. Clearly, the fight can be argued as a matter of style. Pac vs Mayweather is not comparable to Marquez vs Mayweather because Pac is definitely faster and stronger than MArquez.

If there's someone who has the highest chance right now of knocking Mayweather, it's definitely Pac, IMO.

Pac's fight against Cotto will be a test of his ability against Mayweather. If he KO's Cotto, then there is no doubt in my mind that he would be able to KO Mayweather. If he KOs Cotto under 6 rounds as predicted by Roach, Mayweather will go down under 9 unless he will run and run around Pac like what Barrera did in his second fight against Pac. By that time, MAyweather's courage will be tested and this is the reason why this fight is very exciting.

[ElTerribleMorales]

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

There you go again. It's like vice-versa. MAyweather won't want Pac considering how PAc demolished HAtton easily and how MAyweather struggled with HAtton's style in the earlier rounds. This is boxing and anything can happen here considering that Pac and Mayweather are the best in boxing.

Floyd koed MArquez only once while Pac have done it thrice in their first fight. Clearly, the fight can be argued as a matter of style. Pac vs Mayweather is not comparable to Marquez vs Mayweather because Pac is definitely faster and stronger than MArquez.

If there's someone who has the highest chance right now of knocking Mayweather, it's definitely Pac, IMO.

Pac's fight against Cotto will be a test of his ability against Mayweather. If he KO's Cotto, then there is no doubt in my mind that he would be able to KO Mayweather. If he KOs Cotto under 6 rounds as predicted by Roach, Mayweather will go down under 9 unless he will run and run around Pac like what Barrera did in his second fight against Pac. By that time, MAyweather's courage will be tested and this is the reason why this fight is very exciting.

no sorry Mayweather nor Pacquiao Ko'd Marquez, they knocked him down, big difference, learn son, learn

[brucelee]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

I miss the gay talk from you. LOL.

[Gandalf]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

I miss the gay talk from you. LOL.

I do indeed talk the language of fragrant daffodils and quaint little daisies.

[amat]

The key to being a fighter like Malignaggi is you have to be accurate and you have to be slick, he's really neither. He's fast, he knows how to work on the outside and he knows how to keep his output up but that's about it. IMO he shares the same dilemma with Rayonta Whitfield whom I used to be very high on but he's just not accurate enough and he seems to get hit to much. Simple as.

Bilbo, you are the Rayonta Whitfield of forum posters.