Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

[Gandalf]

The majority of people thought Malignaggi won the fight. Here's a poll Fight News did after the fight. Those who thought it could go either way or that Diaz won are in the minority.

Diaz-Malignaggi Quick Poll | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

I thought Malignaggi outworked Diaz quite convincingly and has a very good case for a rematch on his own turf. It's a shame that The blubbery seal has no desire to prove the public wrong.

That doesn't make it a robbery.

You can argue semantics all you like. I think it was a robbery.

[Gandalf]

And one of the great post fight interviews. Malignaggi admits it was close, but he is right in that he did outbox Diaz. He says he was robbed too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnhWoFXgr0

[brucelee]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

[Gandalf]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

[CFH]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

[brucelee]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

[amat]

Damn Miles, robbery? WTF? NO, that was no robbery in fact the 117-110 scorecard was more in line (imo) then any scorecard that has Malignaggi ahead. Please go rewatch that fight and alert me when Malignaggi lands a significant fight EVER. When you're not powerful, you're not ACCURATE (which hasn't been talked about at all) and you're not slick defensively, wtf are you? Paulie Malignaggi who could fight that same fight a million times and would get the nod 1 out of 10 times, the judges live were right just listen to the difference of sound in the punches. I had it 116-112 and scoring it any closer would require giving Malignaggi rounds where he did NOTHING offensively. I don't want a rematch.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Not that Pacquiao has anything to do with this thread, but he would've absolutely smoked Diaz, who never would have seen his punches coming. It probably would have been more competitive that the other Diaz' fight, but it wouldn't have lasted as long.

LOL. Sorry for including Pac in this thread. I could not start a thread about it so with the spur of the moment I just have to ask about it.

David Diaz was a reasonable fight for Pac as he was the man who beat Erik Morales though I personally see that fight as a robbery on Erik's legacy.

Another question that has been in my mind is, how long would Juan last against Pac.

Regarding my question on Hatton vs Diaz, I'm wondering how would Diaz fare against Hatton given that Hatton handled Malignaggi easily.Of course styles make fight but given HAtton and Diaz' ability, styles won't really be a big factor here.

Hatton is pretty much shot, so i'd actually favor Diaz to pull a decision, unless it's in Manchester, and using your logic, Manny shouldn't want any of Mayweather seeing how bad he struggled with Marquez and how easily Floyd played with him

[brucelee]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

I miss the gay talk from you. LOL.

[Gandalf]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Now then Bruce. You are obviously missing me...

I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton/Diaz either. I just can't see Hatton coming back now though. It will have been a year since Pac before he is in any way ready to get near the ring again and I can't see that being good for someone who sups and eats like Hatton.

I would have much preferred Pac to fight Juan rather than David Diaz too. Would have been exciting while it lasted, whereas David Diaz was just a totally one sided beat down.

I miss the gay talk from you. LOL.

I do indeed talk the language of fragrant daffodils and quaint little daisies.

[amat]

The key to being a fighter like Malignaggi is you have to be accurate and you have to be slick, he's really neither. He's fast, he knows how to work on the outside and he knows how to keep his output up but that's about it. IMO he shares the same dilemma with Rayonta Whitfield whom I used to be very high on but he's just not accurate enough and he seems to get hit to much. Simple as.

Bilbo, you are the Rayonta Whitfield of forum posters.

[Pavlik]

I can't help but wonder how would Diaz fare against Hatton.

Many people were criticizing Pac for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and now that Juan was exposed, I can't help but also wonder what would have happened had he (Juan) fought against Pac.


edit: Hello there miles. Long time no talk.

Same here Bro, I remember those days when Juan was calling out Manny with a lady alongside the Baby Bull screaming WE WANT PACMAN, PACMAN. this kid belitlling Manny's accomplishments saying he beats up old champs. Now he has 2 losses vs much older competition and a very questionable win over Malignaggi whom Hatton just dominated, the Hatton that..............

[J_Undisputed]

The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

or

c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.

[Kev]

The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

or

c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.

I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.

[JazMerkin]

The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

or

c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.

I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.

PLENTY of people thought Diaz won. I may not be one of them, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a large minority who felt that Diaz took it & scoring just 2 rounds the other way I would have had him winning. I'm guessing that those who weren't indignant at the result didn't feel the same need to go to every boxing website & declare their disgust in the same way some of those who felt Paulie won did.