Comparison of Floyd's punching stats to Vitali's punching stats in latest matches

[Rantcatrat]

It would be interesting to see how many punches Arreloa threw compared to JMM. Mayweather might have had to spend more time avoiding punches?

Maybe you are right. Arreola was 86 of 331 and Marquez was 69 for 583. Remember though we are comparing welterweights to heavyweights. Just that they are capable of comparison is slightly odd.

[JazMerkin]

It would be interesting to see how many punches Arreloa threw compared to JMM. Mayweather might have had to spend more time avoiding punches?

Maybe you are right. Arreola was 86 of 331 and Marquez was 69 for 583. Remember though we are comparing welterweights to heavyweights. Just that they are capable of comparison is slightly odd.

Fair point, but Marquez is clearly far more adept at punching than Arreola in terms of his accuracy. I think the fact that a fighter as good as Marquez threw 252 more punches than Arreola & connected 17 less has to say something as well.

[Rantcatrat]

It would be interesting to see how many punches Arreloa threw compared to JMM. Mayweather might have had to spend more time avoiding punches?

Maybe you are right. Arreola was 86 of 331 and Marquez was 69 for 583. Remember though we are comparing welterweights to heavyweights. Just that they are capable of comparison is slightly odd.

Fair point, but Marquez is clearly far more adept at punching than Arreola in terms of his accuracy. I think the fact that a fighter as good as Marquez threw 252 more punches than Arreola & connected 17 less has to say something as well.

That Floyd has amazing defense.

Still how many times do you see a heavyweight throwing decisively more punches than a welterweight? Vitali gets a ton of crap for being a boring fighter. At least in this case, the punching stats don't show it.

[JazMerkin]

Maybe you are right. Arreola was 86 of 331 and Marquez was 69 for 583. Remember though we are comparing welterweights to heavyweights. Just that they are capable of comparison is slightly odd.

Fair point, but Marquez is clearly far more adept at punching than Arreola in terms of his accuracy. I think the fact that a fighter as good as Marquez threw 252 more punches than Arreola & connected 17 less has to say something as well.

That Floyd has amazing defense.

Still how many times do you see a heavyweight throwing decisively more punches than a welterweight? Vitali gets a ton of crap for being a boring fighter. At least in this case, the punching stats don't show it.

I don't think he's a boring fighter, I just feel the quality of his & his brother's opponents (not Chagaev or Arreola who I both thought were good fighters) is often not up to standard. I think the reason Vitali's performance gets less praise than Floyd's is because to the average person it isn't as exciting to watch, because his size doesn't allow him to look as fluid & athletic as Mayweather. Although I think Vitali is on the slide, he kept Arreola decisively at bay & I was impressed at how he went to the body. But, I don't really see anyone not giving him credit (Lefty isn't here no more)

[Taeth]

You also have to look at quality of punches, 90% of what MAyweather throws is crisp, technical punches, while Vitali throws a lot of half hearted punches and he gets away with it because of his size and strength.

[Rantcatrat]

You also have to look at quality of punches, 90% of what MAyweather throws is crisp, technical punches, while Vitali throws a lot of half hearted punches and he gets away with it because of his size and strength.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but still it when you consider the numbers, it is a little wild to think a heavyweight threw more punches than a welterweight. To your point, also take into consideration that Vitali landed 153 of 201 power punches and Floyd landed 105 of 177 power punches.

I guess another thing to take away from this is that Arreola has a helluva chin because Vitali is a monster of a human and landed a ton of punches on Arreola.

[Mar]

...floyd didn't need to throw as many, and against a much better fighter. Seems more impressive to me.

[JonnyFolds]

You also have to look at quality of punches, 90% of what MAyweather throws is crisp, technical punches, while Vitali throws a lot of half hearted punches and he gets away with it because of his size and strength.

You must be joking. Vitali's win was way more appealing than Floyd's. Vitali was throwing punch FAR harder in comparison to Floyds.

We could also look at the fact that Mayweather was fighting a guy 20lbs lighter than he, and Vitali was fighting a guy who weighed the same
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[JonnyFolds]

I think the record for punch output in a single fight is held by Ivan Robinson and Phillip holiday 995 combined landed punches. Not sure how many were thrown. But Holiday connected with 555. The record for Compubox.

Then you have Ike Ibeabushi and David Tua putting up some crazy numbers as heavyweights.

[Taeth]

You also have to look at quality of punches, 90% of what MAyweather throws is crisp, technical punches, while Vitali throws a lot of half hearted punches and he gets away with it because of his size and strength.

You must be joking. Vitali's win was way more appealing than Floyd's. Vitali was throwing punch FAR harder in comparison to Floyds.

We could also look at the fact that Mayweather was fighting a guy 20lbs lighter than he, and Vitali was fighting a guy who weighed the same
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Where the fuck is your logic coming from? Mayweather did not weigh 168 when he fought Marquez, what are you smoking? Also Arreola shouldn't be anywhere near 250, Mayweather fought a guy in supreme shape, while Vitali fought a guy who looked like he should be entering training camp, not at the end of it. Mayweather didn't throw as many punches, but you look at body rotation and everything, Mayweather was putting more into his punches more often. Mayweather always throws crisp punches, he doesn't throw a lot of punches but he makes as many punches as possible count. That why he almost connected with as many punches as Vitali while throwing less than half as many.

There are plenty of times where both brothers toy with opponents, and also because of their height and size and lack of athleticism(in comparison to Mayweather) there is no way they can get the same rotation on punches. Thats why Lennox Lewis hit harder than either brother, or Tyson, or Tua. Its because they had the ability to put their whole bodies into punches, while Wlad and especially Vitali pummel opponents and frustrate opponents until they steal the guys will to fight but don't have that spark out power.

Floyd fought a guy 8xbetter than Arreola, a guy with speed, counter punching ability, and heart. Floyd showed better everything except power in comparsion to Vitali.

[ross]

I don't think he's a boring fighter, I just feel the quality of his & his brother's opponents (not Chagaev or Arreola who I both thought were good fighters) is often not up to standard.

Well, unfortunately for the Klitchskos, when they try doing what Floyd does and bring fighters up from the lower weights as opponents, their proposed opponents shiit them selves and run a mile

[Gandalf]

It would be interesting to see how many punches Arreloa threw compared to JMM. Mayweather might have had to spend more time avoiding punches?

Maybe you are right. Arreola was 86 of 331 and Marquez was 69 for 583. Remember though we are comparing welterweights to heavyweights. Just that they are capable of comparison is slightly odd.

I was as way off as a human could ever be. I had a similar feeling watching both fights though, wanting the losing guy to do more, but never quite doing it.

Arreola's output is quite shocking really.