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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

    Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

    Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

    It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

    John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

    I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

    Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

    Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

    It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

    John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

    I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.
    PLENTY of people thought Diaz won. I may not be one of them, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a large minority who felt that Diaz took it & scoring just 2 rounds the other way I would have had him winning. I'm guessing that those who weren't indignant at the result didn't feel the same need to go to every boxing website & declare their disgust in the same way some of those who felt Paulie won did.

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    My biggest thing is as Bilbo has already stated were, Paulie had to drop 2 pounds, fight in a small ring in houston 2 out of 3 judges from texas the other from oklahoma which ain't much better and the ref from texas as well. Paulie was never winning that fight

    I would be okay with a 115-113 card for diaz, one of them were, 116-112 is hometown judging and 118-110 is just criminal

    Paulie threw more shots, maybe not more power shots, but he did throw and land more punches overall

    punch stats were 123/434 power for diaz 80/328 for paulie

    total punches 178/663 diaz 191/949 paulie

    with that paulie dictated most of the rounds, boxing beautifully and showing a great defense
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    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    My biggest thing is as Bilbo has already stated were, Paulie had to drop 2 pounds, fight in a small ring in houston 2 out of 3 judges from texas the other from oklahoma which ain't much better and the ref from texas as well. Paulie was never winning that fight

    I would be okay with a 115-113 card for diaz, one of them were, 116-112 is hometown judging and 118-110 is just criminal

    Paulie threw more shots, maybe not more power shots, but he did throw and land more punches overall

    punch stats were 123/434 power for diaz 80/328 for paulie

    total punches 178/663 diaz 191/949 paulie

    with that paulie dictated most of the rounds, boxing beautifully and showing a great defense
    What that also shows is that Diaz was connecting at a significantly better percentage, supporting what Ouma said. I'd have to say of the 2 fighters, Diaz was the one who seemed to be winning rounds more decisively. I think pretty much every round I gave to him, he won decidedly. I think anyone looking at it honestly & forgetting the shit that happened afterwards, couldn't say that Paulie was winning ALL his rounds that decisively.

    The scorecards were shocking, but Paulie did himself no favours beforehand & his comments about Raul Caiz Sr were just out of order. Shall we say that Don Trella can never be a judge for any of Paulie's fights because he's Italian-American? I had sympathy for him at the time, because I do feel he won, but it was very close & all his crying about it now just makes him seem a dick. Which is a shame because when he's not complaining about the world, he actually seems quite a cool guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

    Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

    Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

    It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

    John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

    I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.
    PLENTY of people thought Diaz won. I may not be one of them, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a large minority who felt that Diaz took it & scoring just 2 rounds the other way I would have had him winning. I'm guessing that those who weren't indignant at the result didn't feel the same need to go to every boxing website & declare their disgust in the same way some of those who felt Paulie won did.
    I've not seen a poll online where Diaz has got more than 20% of voter support, the overwhelming majority were in favour of a Malignaggi won.

    But it's not just about the decision, it's the nature of it. Had Diaz edged a razor close decision then it would have been palatable but 118-110, please, that just demonstrates that Paulie had already lost the fight before he stepped into the ring.

    He was chosen as a non puncher, was made to come in under weight to take away any edge he might have, and then it had already been predecided that Diaz would win the decision. Paulie could have put him down twice and he still would have lost on the cards.

    It IS a robbery, it's corruption and no wonder Malignaggi is pissed. They did it here with McDermott too, he completely exposed TysonFury and then went on to lose a wide wide decision where the ref gave all but two rounds to Fury. At least the British board of control have ordered an immediate rematch but honestly this sport fucking sucks at times.

    It's probably the same in most sports. We saw in Formula 1 how Renault cheated last year in Singapore by asking Piquet to crash his car into the barrier to bring out the safety car to secure an Alonso win.

    You guys are deluding yourselves if you don't think that kind of thing goes on in boxing.

    There was simply no way Juan was losing this fight unless by KO, and they handpicked a notorious non puncher to ensure that wouldn't happen, even forcing to fight at catchweight to take away any chance.

    Sorry but all I can say is fuck Juan Diaz, fuck GBP and fuck the corrrupt judges who had their pockets lined for that fight.

    Diaz is going nowhere anywhere as soon as he steps up he gets the shit kicked out of him and it will be sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

    Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

    Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

    It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

    John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

    I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.
    PLENTY of people thought Diaz won. I may not be one of them, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a large minority who felt that Diaz took it & scoring just 2 rounds the other way I would have had him winning. I'm guessing that those who weren't indignant at the result didn't feel the same need to go to every boxing website & declare their disgust in the same way some of those who felt Paulie won did.
    I've not seen a poll online where Diaz has got more than 20% of voter support, the overwhelming majority were in favour of a Malignaggi won.

    But it's not just about the decision, it's the nature of it. Had Diaz edged a razor close decision then it would have been palatable but 118-110, please, that just demonstrates that Paulie had already lost the fight before he stepped into the ring.

    He was chosen as a non puncher, was made to come in under weight to take away any edge he might have, and then it had already been predecided that Diaz would win the decision. Paulie could have put him down twice and he still would have lost on the cards.

    It IS a robbery, it's corruption and no wonder Malignaggi is pissed. They did it here with McDermott too, he completely exposed TysonFury and then went on to lose a wide wide decision where the ref gave all but two rounds to Fury. At least the British board of control have ordered an immediate rematch but honestly this sport fucking sucks at times.

    It's probably the same in most sports. We saw in Formula 1 how Renault cheated last year in Singapore by asking Piquet to crash his car into the barrier to bring out the safety car to secure an Alonso win.

    You guys are deluding yourselves if you don't think that kind of thing goes on in boxing.

    There was simply no way Juan was losing this fight unless by KO, and they handpicked a notorious non puncher to ensure that wouldn't happen, even forcing to fight at catchweight to take away any chance.

    Sorry but all I can say is fuck Juan Diaz, fuck GBP and fuck the corrrupt judges who had their pockets lined for that fight.

    Diaz is going nowhere anywhere as soon as he steps up he gets the shit kicked out of him and it will be sweet.
    Will rep you when I can because I like a lot of what you are saying here. Glad to see another person calling it a robbery too as I seem to be in the minority on this thread in feeling that way about this fight.

    It's obvious that most people do actually think Malignaggi won. Any fighter with integrity would accept this and try to set the record straight, but not the little blubbery seal. He knows he is limited and on the wane and is looking to cash out now having lost to two old men and having struggled big time with powderpuff.

    "Marquez, please fight me again. Hatton please stop drinking beer and please, please, please give me a payday...". It just seems a bit desperate and I can see both fighters busting up Diaz something rotten. Meanwhile the guy who won more of the rounds against Diaz is high and dry and not even on the radar for a rematch. It says everything about Diaz and where his honesty and heart lie to me.

    Paulie was quite right to call out the judges after the fight too. It gets that judges name out there, so more can be aware. If boxing had any dignity faulty judges would be investigated and booted for repeatedly scoring fights waywardly. Boxing is full of shit and I was glad to see Paulie have his outburst, because it was the truth. It gets harder to be a boxing fan with this kind of carry on. I can see a time where as a fan, enough becomes enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    PLENTY of people thought Diaz won. I may not be one of them, but that doesn't change the fact that there was a large minority who felt that Diaz took it & scoring just 2 rounds the other way I would have had him winning. I'm guessing that those who weren't indignant at the result didn't feel the same need to go to every boxing website & declare their disgust in the same way some of those who felt Paulie won did.
    I've not seen a poll online where Diaz has got more than 20% of voter support, the overwhelming majority were in favour of a Malignaggi won.

    But it's not just about the decision, it's the nature of it. Had Diaz edged a razor close decision then it would have been palatable but 118-110, please, that just demonstrates that Paulie had already lost the fight before he stepped into the ring.

    He was chosen as a non puncher, was made to come in under weight to take away any edge he might have, and then it had already been predecided that Diaz would win the decision. Paulie could have put him down twice and he still would have lost on the cards.

    It IS a robbery, it's corruption and no wonder Malignaggi is pissed. They did it here with McDermott too, he completely exposed TysonFury and then went on to lose a wide wide decision where the ref gave all but two rounds to Fury. At least the British board of control have ordered an immediate rematch but honestly this sport fucking sucks at times.

    It's probably the same in most sports. We saw in Formula 1 how Renault cheated last year in Singapore by asking Piquet to crash his car into the barrier to bring out the safety car to secure an Alonso win.

    You guys are deluding yourselves if you don't think that kind of thing goes on in boxing.

    There was simply no way Juan was losing this fight unless by KO, and they handpicked a notorious non puncher to ensure that wouldn't happen, even forcing to fight at catchweight to take away any chance.

    Sorry but all I can say is fuck Juan Diaz, fuck GBP and fuck the corrrupt judges who had their pockets lined for that fight.

    Diaz is going nowhere anywhere as soon as he steps up he gets the shit kicked out of him and it will be sweet.
    Will rep you when I can because I like a lot of what you are saying here. Glad to see another person calling it a robbery too as I seem to be in the minority on this thread in feeling that way about this fight.

    It's obvious that most people do actually think Malignaggi won. Any fighter with integrity would accept this and try to set the record straight, but not the little blubbery seal. He knows he is limited and on the wane and is looking to cash out now having lost to two old men and having struggled big time with powderpuff.

    "Marquez, please fight me again. Hatton please stop drinking beer and please, please, please give me a payday...". It just seems a bit desperate and I can see both fighters busting up Diaz something rotten. Meanwhile the guy who won more of the rounds against Diaz is high and dry and not even on the radar for a rematch. It says everything about Diaz and where his honesty and heart lie to me.

    Paulie was quite right to call out the judges after the fight too. It gets that judges name out there, so more can be aware. If boxing had any dignity faulty judges would be investigated and booted for repeatedly scoring fights waywardly. Boxing is full of shit and I was glad to see Paulie have his outburst, because it was the truth. It gets harder to be a boxing fan with this kind of carry on. I can see a time where as a fan, enough becomes enough.
    What fighter has EVER called out the judges for giving THEM the victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    I've not seen a poll online where Diaz has got more than 20% of voter support, the overwhelming majority were in favour of a Malignaggi won.

    But it's not just about the decision, it's the nature of it. Had Diaz edged a razor close decision then it would have been palatable but 118-110, please, that just demonstrates that Paulie had already lost the fight before he stepped into the ring.

    He was chosen as a non puncher, was made to come in under weight to take away any edge he might have, and then it had already been predecided that Diaz would win the decision. Paulie could have put him down twice and he still would have lost on the cards.

    It IS a robbery, it's corruption and no wonder Malignaggi is pissed. They did it here with McDermott too, he completely exposed TysonFury and then went on to lose a wide wide decision where the ref gave all but two rounds to Fury. At least the British board of control have ordered an immediate rematch but honestly this sport fucking sucks at times.

    It's probably the same in most sports. We saw in Formula 1 how Renault cheated last year in Singapore by asking Piquet to crash his car into the barrier to bring out the safety car to secure an Alonso win.

    You guys are deluding yourselves if you don't think that kind of thing goes on in boxing.

    There was simply no way Juan was losing this fight unless by KO, and they handpicked a notorious non puncher to ensure that wouldn't happen, even forcing to fight at catchweight to take away any chance.

    Sorry but all I can say is fuck Juan Diaz, fuck GBP and fuck the corrrupt judges who had their pockets lined for that fight.

    Diaz is going nowhere anywhere as soon as he steps up he gets the shit kicked out of him and it will be sweet.
    Will rep you when I can because I like a lot of what you are saying here. Glad to see another person calling it a robbery too as I seem to be in the minority on this thread in feeling that way about this fight.

    It's obvious that most people do actually think Malignaggi won. Any fighter with integrity would accept this and try to set the record straight, but not the little blubbery seal. He knows he is limited and on the wane and is looking to cash out now having lost to two old men and having struggled big time with powderpuff.

    "Marquez, please fight me again. Hatton please stop drinking beer and please, please, please give me a payday...". It just seems a bit desperate and I can see both fighters busting up Diaz something rotten. Meanwhile the guy who won more of the rounds against Diaz is high and dry and not even on the radar for a rematch. It says everything about Diaz and where his honesty and heart lie to me.

    Paulie was quite right to call out the judges after the fight too. It gets that judges name out there, so more can be aware. If boxing had any dignity faulty judges would be investigated and booted for repeatedly scoring fights waywardly. Boxing is full of shit and I was glad to see Paulie have his outburst, because it was the truth. It gets harder to be a boxing fan with this kind of carry on. I can see a time where as a fan, enough becomes enough.
    What fighter has EVER called out the judges for giving THEM the victory.
    I cannot think of any, but it would be a fantastic precedent in boxing were it to happen. I think I might have standards that make me distinct from the rest of the human race though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

    Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

    Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

    It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

    John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

    I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.


    I can't believe I missed this, well yes I can I didn't read the post but I digress, Bilbo WTF you've gotta be kidding me with this right?

    You must despise Joel Casamayor, and...sorry I'm having a hard time coming up with people who've been the beneficiary of bad decisions lately, I know they're out there, I just can't think of them right now.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

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    The funny part of this is no matter what kind of swindler Schaeffer is... It goes to prove a point. Does anyone think Diaz really cares if fights Malignaggi again. He got the "W" ... fairly or unfairly..

    It used to be that a fighter didn't care about this money stuff, if they wanted to set the record straight. There was a time when a guy that felt he got shafted by the judges would fight diaz again in Texas for free, on christmas morning, and destroy him to prove to everyone he got cheated in the first fight. (last time that I remember a guy hellbent on revenge not matter what the cost was the Jones Jr. Rematch with Griffin).

    Whining about money, location, and then trash talking a guy and his mom etc hoping he'll fight you so you can still make money to live on because you don't want a 9 to 5 job (despite claiming boxing is Bull$hit) is pretty classless. Malignaggi, should either:

    a.) Man the hell up, give GBP/diaz what they want and prove his point in the ring, show the world its his time.

    b.)quit boxing and try his hand at something else where he feels he'll get fair shake everytime.

    or

    c.)Suck it up, get used to it and be thankful people are still willing to spend any money to see him fight the way he does.
    I don't really agree with this. Everything was against Paulie, not only did he go to Juan's backyard but he also had to come in underweight because Juan was not man enough to fight him at his own weight.

    Paulie is not a puncher so any rematch would likely go 12 rounds again and, if in the same state, under the same conditions, Paulie just wouldn't get the nod.

    Of course Paulie will be upset, its his livelihood and career, man it would eat me up if I beat someone in my chosen sport and got robbed.

    It's the thing I hate about boxing more than anything else, so many weekends are ruined for me because of it.

    John Mcdermott, an unfashionable fat domestic heavyweight in the UK has been completely jobbed twice now against Danny Williams and Tyson Fury. At least the board ordered rematches in both cases, but it shouldn't be necessary. The right man should get the win in the first place, how can you not feel for someone like McDermott who should have two great W's on his record against the Tyson conqueror Williams, and the super hype job Tyson Fury?

    I hope Tyson and Juan both get destroyed in their next fights because to me an honourable man should admit when they have been beat. Fighters may not be responsible for the decisions but they never have any integrity after a fight either, always insisting they won when virtually the entire watching world disagrees.


    I can't believe I missed this, well yes I can I didn't read the post but I digress, Bilbo WTF you've gotta be kidding me with this right?

    You must despise Joel Casamayor, and...sorry I'm having a hard time coming up with people who've been the beneficiary of bad decisions lately, I know they're out there, I just can't think of them right now.
    Absolutely, got one of the biggest gift decisions of all time, it was great when Marquez demolished him.

    and what's wrong with hating on fighters, we all do it, Miles is still putting pins in his Khan doll to this day following his win over a badly bloodied Barrera.

    I don't blame a fighter for being the recipient of a gift win, but at least be man enough to admit you didn't win the fight, or that you were lucky to get the decision.

    Juan Diaz is done, he's been exposed 3 times now and has nothing else to offer.

    At least we still have Carl ' The Cobra' Froch to bring some decency back to the sport of boxing in a couple weeks time.

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    I don't care about hating fighters, Miles does have a certain flair with his hate, but wanting a guy to go up and apologize for winning a fight but maybe having iffy scores is insane.

    Casamayor clearly lost. Nobody argues that. I barely know who Fury is.

    Froch is going to lose LOL. Well maybe. Dumb shit talked about how silly Dirrell is to call himself "Son of God" when he doesn't even call himself that, its Andre Ward ffs.

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    Hahahaha Bilbo I am not going show any pity when I point out how DEAD WRONG you are about Froch.

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    Default Re: Juan (the blubbery seal) Diaz avoiding Malignaggi rematch

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I don't care about hating fighters, Miles does have a certain flair with his hate, but wanting a guy to go up and apologize for winning a fight but maybe having iffy scores is insane.

    Casamayor clearly lost. Nobody argues that. I barely know who Fury is.

    Froch is going to lose LOL. Well maybe. Dumb shit talked about how silly Dirrell is to call himself "Son of God" when he doesn't even call himself that, its Andre Ward ffs.
    To be fair, my dislike of Khan apprears to be dissipating as the Barrera fight appears to me evermore like some kind of distant bad dream. The same with Manny too, Hatton appears to be long gone and the wind up fans have all gathered in some other great garden of all things Pacquiao.

    Otherwise, I currently dislike the blubbery seal and won't have too much good to say about Mayweather unless he fights a proper opponent. We will probably end up with Mayweather/Diaz at 144 pounds though. Nooooo!!!!!

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