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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    I have been reading how Manny has been getting hit too much in sparring, especially by Porter. I also read where Porter would not commit himself wholeheartedly to endorsing Manny in his fight against Cotto. Porter did not seem to be impressed by Manny's power (maybe because he is a junior middleweight), but definitely by his speed. I also read that Arum was a bit disappointed in Manny's sparring when he visited his camp recently. And Roach doesn't know what to predict. First Cotto will be a tough fight, then they are preparing for a 12 rounder, then Manny will knock him out, now back to being a tough fight. Could Roach et al be seeing trouble for Manny at the end of the tunnel? Is Roach perplexed as to how Manny is going to handle Cotto? 6 weeks and counting.
    There were also reports that Mayweather wasn't doing well sparring either -.- a guy like Manny who doesn't have great defensive technique definitely needs time to develop his timing in order to be elusive, and that will come. Also Shawn Porter has really quick hands and he is a good boxer, I mean he beat Jacobs to go on the Olympic team.

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    I have been reading how Manny has been getting hit too much in sparring, especially by Porter. I also read where Porter would not commit himself wholeheartedly to endorsing Manny in his fight against Cotto. Porter did not seem to be impressed by Manny's power (maybe because he is a junior middleweight), but definitely by his speed. I also read that Arum was a bit disappointed in Manny's sparring when he visited his camp recently. And Roach doesn't know what to predict. First Cotto will be a tough fight, then they are preparing for a 12 rounder, then Manny will knock him out, now back to being a tough fight. Could Roach et al be seeing trouble for Manny at the end of the tunnel? Is Roach perplexed as to how Manny is going to handle Cotto? 6 weeks and counting.
    There were also reports that Mayweather wasn't doing well sparring either -.- a guy like Manny who doesn't have great defensive technique definitely needs time to develop his timing in order to be elusive, and that will come. Also Shawn Porter has really quick hands and he is a good boxer, I mean he beat Jacobs to go on the Olympic team.
    I don't remember any reports that Mayweather was struggling in sparring, other than hurting his rib, which caused the first postponement of the fight. Perhaps you can enlighten me. Who was causing Floyd problems? Who reported those problems? Team Mayweather? The promoters? Reporters? Holla back.

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    I have been reading how Manny has been getting hit too much in sparring, especially by Porter. I also read where Porter would not commit himself wholeheartedly to endorsing Manny in his fight against Cotto. Porter did not seem to be impressed by Manny's power (maybe because he is a junior middleweight), but definitely by his speed. I also read that Arum was a bit disappointed in Manny's sparring when he visited his camp recently. And Roach doesn't know what to predict. First Cotto will be a tough fight, then they are preparing for a 12 rounder, then Manny will knock him out, now back to being a tough fight. Could Roach et al be seeing trouble for Manny at the end of the tunnel? Is Roach perplexed as to how Manny is going to handle Cotto? 6 weeks and counting.
    There were also reports that Mayweather wasn't doing well sparring either -.- a guy like Manny who doesn't have great defensive technique definitely needs time to develop his timing in order to be elusive, and that will come. Also Shawn Porter has really quick hands and he is a good boxer, I mean he beat Jacobs to go on the Olympic team.
    Shawn Porter never made the Olympic team. He did beat Jacobs before in the amateurs though. I think Jacobs beat Porter twice though. Porter is the ideal choice for preparing for Cotto. I think Porter has more to offer than Cotto and Omar Henry is a lesser version of Cotto. So Pac does have the best preparation right now for Cotto. And it is common for a guy like Pac to be having hard times in sparring because that is the purpose. You want to pick a guy better and/or bigger so you push the contracted guy to the next level. Porter is a bigger, faster, stronger, and more aggressive version of Cotto. Roach didn't expect Pac to handle Porter, Roach knows Porter's very talented, he expected hard times and that is why he picked a guy such as Porter. Having a hard time against Porter doesn't mean a Cotto victory by no means. Porter only has lesser pro experience than Cotto. Porter as a fighter/sparring partner is not lesser than Cotto. Being able to deal with Porter before the fight is the ideal and is what will mean the most.
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    So i heard that Omar Henry will not be Pacquiao's sparring partner after all. Is this true?

    I also heard Koncz (sp?) isn't too happy with Roach and said something to the effect of "I told Manny to dump Roach long ago".

    Are there any truth in these stories, guys?

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Quote Originally Posted by knodaledge View Post
    So i heard that Omar Henry will not be Pacquiao's sparring partner after all. Is this true?

    I also heard Koncz (sp?) isn't too happy with Roach and said something to the effect of "I told Manny to dump Roach long ago".

    Are there any truth in these stories, guys?
    if that was true i was wondering what could be the problem with roach making koncz say that? not to mention the rumor that arum as well was not happy with pac's performance in the training.
    i have to dig in with some recent articles in the net concerning this quote.

    pac and roach had the best trainer-boxer relationship in recent years imo. it would be a shame if they will have to break that relationship, brings tears in my eyes.

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    I have been reading how Manny has been getting hit too much in sparring, especially by Porter. I also read where Porter would not commit himself wholeheartedly to endorsing Manny in his fight against Cotto. Porter did not seem to be impressed by Manny's power (maybe because he is a junior middleweight), but definitely by his speed. I also read that Arum was a bit disappointed in Manny's sparring when he visited his camp recently. And Roach doesn't know what to predict. First Cotto will be a tough fight, then they are preparing for a 12 rounder, then Manny will knock him out, now back to being a tough fight. Could Roach et al be seeing trouble for Manny at the end of the tunnel? Is Roach perplexed as to how Manny is going to handle Cotto? 6 weeks and counting.
    There were also reports that Mayweather wasn't doing well sparring either -.- a guy like Manny who doesn't have great defensive technique definitely needs time to develop his timing in order to be elusive, and that will come. Also Shawn Porter has really quick hands and he is a good boxer, I mean he beat Jacobs to go on the Olympic team.
    Shawn Porter never made the Olympic team. He did beat Jacobs before in the amateurs though. I think Jacobs beat Porter twice though. Porter is the ideal choice for preparing for Cotto. I think Porter has more to offer than Cotto and Omar Henry is a lesser version of Cotto. So Pac does have the best preparation right now for Cotto. And it is common for a guy like Pac to be having hard times in sparring because that is the purpose. You want to pick a guy better and/or bigger so you push the contracted guy to the next level. Porter is a bigger, faster, stronger, and more aggressive version of Cotto. Roach didn't expect Pac to handle Porter, Roach knows Porter's very talented, he expected hard times and that is why he picked a guy such as Porter. Having a hard time against Porter doesn't mean a Cotto victory by no means. Porter only has lesser pro experience than Cotto. Porter as a fighter/sparring partner is not lesser than Cotto. Being able to deal with Porter before the fight is the ideal and is what will mean the most.
    Shawn Porter was on the US 2008 team. Also Omar Henry could easily become as good as Cotto if not better depending on his chin. He has all the ability in the world, only time will tell.

    As for Mayweather having difficulties in sparring, they were widely speculated, but Anthony Peterson allegedly got the better of Floyd when they sparred, also there were other rumours that Floyd wasn't looking very good in sparring, Freddie Roach among others brought this up.

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    This Porter kid's already better than Cotto? Fuck.

    Apparently Henry turned it down. If there was ever a real offer, there was somebody a few weeks ago that was rumored to be sparring Manny and Roach just said it was out and out bs.

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    last i heard porter was in the philippines training with pac. They said porter got some good hits on pac but pac is still 40% which Arum wasn't too happy about.

    This vid doesn't show much just them two seperately training.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-VW4aSls0I
    Last edited by Julius Rain; 10-05-2009 at 03:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Sounds like Omar chose college over experiencing training with the best. He didnt want to miss class

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSsqAorq08

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    Default Re: Team Pacquiao awaits Cotto ‘clone’

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post

    There were also reports that Mayweather wasn't doing well sparring either -.- a guy like Manny who doesn't have great defensive technique definitely needs time to develop his timing in order to be elusive, and that will come. Also Shawn Porter has really quick hands and he is a good boxer, I mean he beat Jacobs to go on the Olympic team.
    Shawn Porter never made the Olympic team. He did beat Jacobs before in the amateurs though. I think Jacobs beat Porter twice though. Porter is the ideal choice for preparing for Cotto. I think Porter has more to offer than Cotto and Omar Henry is a lesser version of Cotto. So Pac does have the best preparation right now for Cotto. And it is common for a guy like Pac to be having hard times in sparring because that is the purpose. You want to pick a guy better and/or bigger so you push the contracted guy to the next level. Porter is a bigger, faster, stronger, and more aggressive version of Cotto. Roach didn't expect Pac to handle Porter, Roach knows Porter's very talented, he expected hard times and that is why he picked a guy such as Porter. Having a hard time against Porter doesn't mean a Cotto victory by no means. Porter only has lesser pro experience than Cotto. Porter as a fighter/sparring partner is not lesser than Cotto. Being able to deal with Porter before the fight is the ideal and is what will mean the most.
    Shawn Porter was on the US 2008 team. Also Omar Henry could easily become as good as Cotto if not better depending on his chin. He has all the ability in the world, only time will tell.

    As for Mayweather having difficulties in sparring, they were widely speculated, but Anthony Peterson allegedly got the better of Floyd when they sparred, also there were other rumours that Floyd wasn't looking very good in sparring, Freddie Roach among others brought this up.
    Porter never made the Olympic team. Bios | Content | USA Boxing Maybe Omar Henry will be something in the future, thats not easy to predict, but as of right now Omar Henry is a lesser version of Cotto.

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