Who won? Froch? Or Dirrell?

[JazMerkin]

Do you even understand geography?
Lumping the UK in with Europe is as culturally relevant as lumping it in with the whole northern hemisphere. But that would also implicated the US wouldn't it?

I think he does. The UK is in Europe. Particularly in boxing terms, the same set of referees, judges, timekeepers are shared out across Europe. In a boxing sense it is basically one entity in terms of how its administration is run.

[Violent Demise]

Do you even understand geography?
Lumping the UK in with Europe is as culturally relevant as lumping it in with the whole northern hemisphere. But that would also implicated the US wouldn't it?

I think he does. The UK is in Europe. Particularly in boxing terms, the same set of referees, judges, timekeepers are shared out across Europe. In a boxing sense it is basically one entity in terms of how its administration is run.

Thank you. Finally an unbiased UK poster.

[ryanman]

Do you even understand geography?
Lumping the UK in with Europe is as culturally relevant as lumping it in with the whole northern hemisphere. But that would also implicated the US wouldn't it?

I think he does. The UK is in Europe. Particularly in boxing terms, the same set of referees, judges, timekeepers are shared out across Europe. In a boxing sense it is basically one entity in terms of how its administration is run.

But by his logic if we had 100 fights in a row, in Italy for example, that all had corrupt results, this would prove the existence of corruption in the United Kingdom - simply because they are both in Europe. This makes no sense.

[JazMerkin]

Do you even understand geography?
Lumping the UK in with Europe is as culturally relevant as lumping it in with the whole northern hemisphere. But that would also implicated the US wouldn't it?

I think he does. The UK is in Europe. Particularly in boxing terms, the same set of referees, judges, timekeepers are shared out across Europe. In a boxing sense it is basically one entity in terms of how its administration is run.

But by his logic if we had 100 fights in a row, in Italy for example, that all had corrupt results, this would prove the existence of corruption in the United Kingdom - simply because they are both in Europe. This makes no sense.

Yeah, but there have been dodgy decisions in the UK as elsewhere in Europe. It's a federal system where the most powerful promoters like Warren, Sauerland & Hennessy end up having too much control, particularly in their country.

The argument is much harder to make in the US because they work on a state by state system, where each is different. I guarantee that there can be no comparison between Texas & Califiornia.

He said he'd seen this shiit in Europe, which is true & as a boxing entity we are one. He didn't say the UK is full of this shit (although there has to be some suspicion about the recent run of Hennessy fighters in the UK), but that Europe is. Much as I hate to admit it, he's right. We use far too small a pool of judges & referees over here. Generally the ref doesn't bother me as I tend to think most refs tend end up favouring the house fighter.

But the judges is a problem. There are way too few in Europe, often advancing to the top level much too easily (Van de Wiele last night had never judged above a basic Euro level). I tend to think that the power that the aforementioned promoters hold in Europe often holds a heavy sway over a judge looking over one of their fighters. Take a guess what's happened to the judges who had Thaxton's fight against Mezaache? Booted back off to their respective domestic levels.

[Youngblood]

hahaha - I haven't read all this thread. I just wanted to throw in I thnk Froch is shit. I base that on the fact he is.

[JazMerkin]

hahaha - I haven't read all this thread. I just wanted to throw in I thnk Froch is shit. I base that on the fact he is.

I wish Kel hadn't stormed off to not accuse people of being racist, I really think that this could have had the potential of a HoF thread otherwise

[CFH]

hahaha - I haven't read all this thread. I just wanted to throw in I thnk Froch is shit. I base that on the fact he is.

I wish Kel hadn't stormed off to not accuse people of being racist, I really think that this could have had the potential of a HoF thread otherwise

Don't give up so easily. There's still time.

[Violent Demise]

hahaha - I haven't read all this thread. I just wanted to throw in I thnk Froch is shit. I base that on the fact he is.

I wish Kel hadn't stormed off to not accuse people of being racist, I really think that this could have had the potential of a HoF thread otherwise

I don't think anybody likes being called a rapist. I thought it was pretty low of CFH. I'm flabbergasted at his behavior.

[SalTheButcher]

i forget sometimes how entertaining this site can be



im not even that mad about the decision at this point, i expected some shady shit from the judges

the one thing that really bothers me is that dirrell had to take a loss on his record, and its impossible for ward and dirrell to stiill meet both being undefeated no matter what ward does

the one other thing that still pisses me off is how frotch somehow tried to call the judge that gave the fight to dirrell by like 1 round crooked based on the fact that he was from mexico (i guess because mexico touches the US or some stupid shit like that)


i cant understand how anyone can defend the ref taking a point from dirrell for holding and ignoring the fouls from froch, the worst that could have come from dirrells holds was a delay in the fight, while frotch could have caused brain damaghe with his punches to the back of the head and leg/neck/back injuries with his sambo throw

[SalTheButcher]

also...



SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA PUT IT ON CROTCH

[ryanman]

also...



SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA PUT IT ON CROTCH

Erm. i don't get it.

[SalTheButcher]

also...



SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA PUT IT ON CROTCH

Erm. i don't get it.

its a reference to the american broadcast, something tarver said after the fight