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    I agree with you about Ching and I feel the same way about Conor Casey...the only thing those guys have done is play for MLS teams that are decent enough to feed them the ball. Kenny Cooper played on Dallas FC that only had HIM as a goal scoring threat.

    I would say that Stuart Holden has a good shot at more playing time if Dempsey moves up to striker. If Demarcus Beasley could return to top form he could really help out, but just as with Eddie Johnson he is so inconsistent, that I would rather give the chance to a younger player like Freddy Adu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I agree with you about Ching and I feel the same way about Conor Casey...the only thing those guys have done is play for MLS teams that are decent enough to feed them the ball. Kenny Cooper played on Dallas FC that only had HIM as a goal scoring threat.

    I would say that Stuart Holden has a good shot at more playing time if Dempsey moves up to striker. If Demarcus Beasley could return to top form he could really help out, but just as with Eddie Johnson he is so inconsistent, that I would rather give the chance to a younger player like Freddy Adu.
    I think that's exactly what we will see. I don't see anything else working. Holden can do a nice job and will be more disciplined playing out side than Dempsey. I can see a 4-4-2 diamond mf working well, with Donovan at the top and Clark holding. If Beasley is fit, I like him at left mf to cover defensively for the weak spot at left back. If Gooch isn't 100%, I there is a serious hold at CB and I can't see playing without a defensive mid, even an average one like Clark.

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    I doubt Beasley will ever play again for the National Team we're better off with Torres on the left but as for filling Dempsey's spot, no one is better suited than Benny Feilhaber.

    I WISH we would use Marvel Wynn at LB but he's more of a project at this point. I think Spector is the best fit and Cherundolo can be used as well.

    At CDM, I would hope Maurice Edu comes back... he may be better quality than Clarke

    Dempsey should be used up front but I think the big thing we miss with him up there is #1 We lose a quality midfielder although Feilhaber is good he's not a PROVEN player at the level Dempsey is and #2 Altidore needs to play off of SPEED. The good things we get from Dempsey moving up are #1 We're better on set peices #2 Dempsey is a better passer than Charlie Davies (although Davies was good at finding the goal recently). Another thing we could do is move up Landon Donovan and fill his spot with Dempsey but we'd still be left with a hole at midfield. If we use Freddy Adu or Kenny Cooper we don't have to worry about midfield but since we are deeper at midfield than at striker it would make since to move Dempsey or Donovan upfront.

    I only hope Onyewu heals up in time, but if he doesn't Jay DeMerit is the best chance and maybe Gibbs comes back and plays well, there was a time where people thought he would replace Onyewu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I doubt Beasley will ever play again for the National Team we're better off with Torres on the left but as for filling Dempsey's spot, no one is better suited than Benny Feilhaber.

    I WISH we would use Marvel Wynn at LB but he's more of a project at this point. I think Spector is the best fit and Cherundolo can be used as well.

    At CDM, I would hope Maurice Edu comes back... he may be better quality than Clarke

    Dempsey should be used up front but I think the big thing we miss with him up there is #1 We lose a quality midfielder although Feilhaber is good he's not a PROVEN player at the level Dempsey is and #2 Altidore needs to play off of SPEED. The good things we get from Dempsey moving up are #1 We're better on set peices #2 Dempsey is a better passer than Charlie Davies (although Davies was good at finding the goal recently). Another thing we could do is move up Landon Donovan and fill his spot with Dempsey but we'd still be left with a hole at midfield. If we use Freddy Adu or Kenny Cooper we don't have to worry about midfield but since we are deeper at midfield than at striker it would make since to move Dempsey or Donovan upfront.

    I only hope Onyewu heals up in time, but if he doesn't Jay DeMerit is the best chance and maybe Gibbs comes back and plays well, there was a time where people thought he would replace Onyewu.
    Edu is going to have to get playing time, where that will be I don't know as he's been on the end of a fair bit of racial abuse in his time in Glasgow, some from his own fans last night.

    I honestly don't think you guys will be able to play such an attacking formation at the World Cup. I'd say have Donovan up front, purely because Dempsey tends to track back, whilst Donovan often suffers from the typical #10 syndrome of not being arsed to come back to help the defence.

    Onyewu should be ok, luckily he plays at the club with the best medical facilities in the world & I think he should be back late January or early February. What he needs to do then is get a run in the Milan team, but with Nesta, Thiago Silva, Kaladze & Bonera all ahead of him that may not be quick to happen. Shame because I'd like to see him get a game for them (my Dad's Italian btw, hence me supporting Milan), Standard Liege have definitely suffered without him, & I can't see either DeMerit or Gibbs offering what Onyewu does.

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    The absolutely worst thing that could happen is if Bob Bradley shifts us into a single striker formation just the way Bruce Arena did.

    The US also needs to play the ball through the midfield more.

    You know if worse comes to worse we could always bring Brian McBride back, he's 37, he's got loads of experience and we wouldn't have to swap a midfielder in

    DeMerit and Onyewu played extremely well together in South Africa, I hope we can put that tandem out there again this summer, but if not Gibbs was doing very well before he got injured and I have been shocked he hasn't even been on the bench recently
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    The absolutely worst thing that could happen is if Bob Bradley shifts us into a single striker formation just the way Bruce Arena did.

    The US also needs to play the ball through the midfield more.

    You know if worse comes to worse we could always bring Brian McBride back, he's 37, he's got loads of experience and we wouldn't have to swap a midfielder in

    DeMerit and Onyewu played extremely well together in South Africa, I hope we can put that tandem out there again this summer, but if not Gibbs was doing very well before he got injured and I have been shocked he hasn't even been on the bench recently
    The thing is Kenny Cooper is good for that & he would let Altidore have a bit more freedom. He may not be as tough as McBride or as good in the air, but IMO he's actually got a better eye for a pass, so if holds the ball up, I think that he's a better option to release one of Altidore, Donovan or Dempsey.

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    Yeah I figured Cooper would be a regular on the team but for whatever reason Bradley loves some damn Brian Ching and Conor Casey.

    Cooper could also bust out the Super Goal if needed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrJPYCIZTvo

    I wonder why nobody has mentioned Sal Zizzo recently?

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