Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

[ICB]

You don't get credit for beating guys coming off two losses. Plus the Ruiz-Holyfield fights were two years after Lewis duffed Holy, right?

Well there 1st meeting was only about 8 months, after the Lennox Lewis fight. And i thought John Ruiz handily beat Evander Holyfield, and was robbed. Evander Holyfield hardly done anything until the later rounds. Even the commentators said it was a bad decision.

The rematch was about 7 months after, and i thought Evander Holyfield fought a better fight and was winning. But John Ruiz come on flooring Evander Holyfield heavily, and he beat a good version of Evander Holyfield.

I know John Ruiz is an ugly fighter, but Bernard Hopkins in his later career. Has been very ugly aswell, im obviously not saying John Ruiz is anywhere near Bernard Hopkins level.

But John Ruiz is effective at what he does, and he has beaten some good names. And like i said except for the David Tua fight, has shown he is quite durable and has been unlucky in some fights.

[ElTerribleMorales]

You don't get credit for beating guys coming off two losses. Plus the Ruiz-Holyfield fights were two years after Lewis duffed Holy, right?

Well there 1st meeting was only about 8 months, after the Lennox Lewis fight. And i thought John Ruiz handily beat Evander Holyfield, and was robbed. Evander Holyfield hardly done anything until the later rounds. Even the commentators said it was a bad decision.

The rematch was about 7 months after, and i thought Evander Holyfield fought a better fight and was winning. But John Ruiz come on flooring Evander Holyfield heavily, and he beat a good version of Evander Holyfield.

I know John Ruiz is an ugly fighter, but Bernard Hopkins in his later career. Has been very ugly aswell, im obviously not saying John Ruiz is anywhere near Bernard Hopkins level.

But John Ruiz is effective at what he does, and he has beaten some good names. And like i said except for the David Tua fight, has shown he is quite durable and has been unlucky in some fights.

was thinking bout this the other day and kinda came up with the same conclusion, i mean the whole ugly style thing could also be said about Hatton and well no one really kicks him in the face for it

i don't think Ruiz would ever have won a title in any other era, but he's made the most of what was put in front of him, and hey he also managed to drop Sasquatch on his ass which is always a plus, he does get rated unfairly, and deserves some credit, but he's far from great

[OumaFan]

If you respect guys that get the most out of their natural ability and maybe overachieve you should probably have some sort of respect for Ruiz. Overachievers annoy me personally so I don't really care.

[Master]

No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.

[rjj tszyu]

No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.

He did do well against Holyfield, it was an aging Holyfield with a f***ked shoulder, but he still did well against an all time great.

[Master]

No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.

He did do well against Holyfield, it was an aging Holyfield with a f***ked shoulder, but he still did well against an all time great.

A peak Holyfield would KO him in two rounds like he did Rodriguez. Ruiz is very limited.

[rjj tszyu]

No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.

He did do well against Holyfield, it was an aging Holyfield with a f***ked shoulder, but he still did well against an all time great.

A peak Holyfield would KO him in two rounds like he did Rodriguez. Ruiz is very limited.

I don't doubt that.