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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

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    No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.
    He did do well against Holyfield, it was an aging Holyfield with a f***ked shoulder, but he still did well against an all time great.

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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

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    No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.
    He did do well against Holyfield, it was an aging Holyfield with a f***ked shoulder, but he still did well against an all time great.
    A peak Holyfield would KO him in two rounds like he did Rodriguez. Ruiz is very limited.
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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

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    No, he did well against an undefeated Kirk Johnson but that is it.
    He did do well against Holyfield, it was an aging Holyfield with a f***ked shoulder, but he still did well against an all time great.
    A peak Holyfield would KO him in two rounds like he did Rodriguez. Ruiz is very limited.
    I don't doubt that.

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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

    If you really look at his career he's not got a bad record...
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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

    His style works for him
    He fought some good opp
    Can't say much more

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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

    I don't know if we treat him unfairly. His style is dreadful to watch. At the same time he has fought a lot of the top heavyweights of this not so great heavyweight era. You can't fault him for not fighting lewis because lewis wouldn't fight him. Manny even said he wouldn't let Lewis fight Ruiz during the broadcast of a Ruiz fight.

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    Default Re: Does John Ruiz Get Unfairly Treated ?

    I think when Tua stomped him out like tiny fire,something clicked in him.Like a permanent hug and snuggle safety feature.He was not a bad stand up boxer though with two left feet,potent shots.His early L's to Kobazev and stiff Doc Nicholson could have easily gone in Ruiz's favor.Caught Don Kings favorite fail safe 'challenger' Tucker at the tail end and thought Golota earned the decision over him.He does deserve credit for going three straight with Holyfield and doing very well....I had them 2-1 Holyfield.on the other hand Holyfield should have looked everywhere else rather than 3 goes with that style,think it heavily taxed whatever he had left.

    One factor for some dislike could be his former dreadfully obnoxious and fat mouthed corner man Norm stone.Guy was a camera craving knob...loved when he got booted out of corner during the Golota fight haha.Ruiz is what you see,durable,solid righthand,cagey while stunningly shameless in wet blanket style,but he's effective and save for the Tua,Jones,Toney fights, he's kept them all competitive at the next level.Cant knock him for that.He's the ugly Betty of the Heavys.

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