Haye-Valuev - Who wins? Fact.

[ElTerribleMorales]

So Haye is utter garbage (with a big mouth ).

Judah and Spinks are shit.

Anyone that can't emulate Evander Holyfield is garbage.

you keep going around in circles yet don't put any real reason to why Haye is a special exception and should be given the excuse of him being too small, yet guys like Ruiz, Chagaev, Imbragimov, Brewster, and even Tua don't get the same sympathy, say whatever makes you feel better, but you're talking out your ass Fenster, and that is FACT

You're making yourself look stupid. Who said Haye should get a special exception?

Ruiz, Chagaev, Imbragimov, Brewster and Tua are proven heavyweights, right? They have had dozens of fights at heavyweight.

Haye started out at cruiserweight. He's had one fight at heavyweight since leaving the cruiserweight divison.

Valuev is 10 inches taller and 100lb heavier. That is a HUGE size advantage, no? So if Valuev beats Haye his SIZE will be a factor.

How the fuck is that hard to understand? Seriously....

you're right Haye's unproven as a HW, so then why the fuck has he been lined up for already 3 goddam title shots?

and apart from maybe the Klitschko's everyone is smaller than the damn Sasquatch, yet 3 other fighters (Ruiz, Chagaev, Holyfield) all handled him very well, you keep saying that Haye's lack of experience is gonna play a roll but experience and SIZE don't have anything to do with the other, he doesn't have much experience at the weight and he SHOULDN'T be getting a title shot, but he is, and if he crumbles it's not cause he wasn't PHYSICALLY able, do i have to spell it out in lights for you with big flashing arrows for you to kinda get the picture?

other small heavies have dealt with him fine, and regardless of his experience at the division he's already built up to a heavyweight and isn't killing himself to get into shape, oh wait he's coming off a back injury