Great thread by Amat, although I have to say when I first read it I missed the point & was planning to call him a hypocrite until my headache from catching too many left hands in sparring subsided.

Anyway, I can't see how anyone could justify last night's win for Haye & not Dirrell's against Froch or vice-versa. While Dirrell pissed about complaining, he had a far better punch output. The size of Valuev is no excuse, that's the issue with the HW division, any man above is in your weightclass. I thought Haye took it 116-113, was an awful fight but glad to see my boxing club get our first HW Champ

Haye fought a very good tactical fight & in that 12th showed he has serious power, but must glad he was in Nuremburg & not Nottingham

End of the day, Haye won, but he had no worries on the cards because Sauerland & Don King know who is worth more money to them in the future (Sauerland have some options on Haye for definite). I thought it was pretty fairly judged. Hopefully Haye now gets rid of the quietman & sets up a clash with a Klit (no pun intended).