Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob View Post
Bilbo you have lost the plot again, my friend.

I can see some logic behind the madness but to post it is a clear sign of insanity. (I mean that as a friend)

Joe Calzaghe said he could beat Wladimir Klitschko and most rubbished his thoughts.

Drop Valuev or Wladimir in a cell with Ike Ibeabuchi and neither comes out alive.
ha yeah I agree Wlad would kill Joe. But Valuev just wouldnt land on him if Calzaghe chose to keep away.

Maybe these guys wouldn't do enough to beat him, but they would all comfortably survive if thats all they wanted to do, and imo that is shameful because they would get torn up against a decent real heavyweight champ.

Do you think Valuev would knock out Hopkins, Calzaghe, Adamek, Ward, even Floyd or Mosely if they were as negative as Haye?
Making a statement like that is missing the point. You cannot win the fight with running only. You are saying that Haye -only- ran the whole time and sorry but that is false. If that were true, he couldnt win. But he did win. 2 of 3 judges called it and the 3rd called a draw. And the punches that Haye threw were not weak. Valuev simply has a solid chin. That is why no one has KO'd him at all. I repeat, saying that Haye only ran for 12 rounds is false. He ran, but he hit as well, and obviously he hit enough to convince for a win -In Germany- I am only stating the obvious, or so I thought.