Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
Sorry, but Valuev gets way more shit than he deserves, now I'd like to preface this by saying he's not great or particularly good. What he isn't is complete shit. He is by no means the worst Heavyweight Champ in history, have you not seen footage of Primo Carnera?? Valuev looks like Ali next to him. I'd also say that Pinklon Thomas & possibly Tony Tubbs were worse, & reportedly there was a guy in the early part of the last century called Marvin Hart who was truly awful.

Valuev is a lot better than he gets credit for. He has decent fundamental boxing skills, & doesn't have bad movement or speed for a man his size who is clearly not a natural athlete in a way that Lennox or the Klitschkos are. Now, I'm not saying he's great or a worthy world champ, but he's by no means the worst ever. Say what you like but he's never been clearly beaten & yes whilst his size obviously has played a huge part & his record does have some heavy padding, he has also clearly beaten some decent guys & often by outboxing them. Carnera couldn't have outboxed a heavy bag.

* Key word throughout that is DECENT. He's not great or even particularly good, but he isn't completely shit, especially compared to many of the other big men of the past.
Tubbs and Thomas weren't that bad. There are some other horrors that held versions of the belts, i.e Coetzer, Tate, Bentt, Weaver and many more. Agreed though Valuev aint the worst