3 things - 1 Pac is inhuman- 2- How good must marquez be - 3-Mayweather!

[generalbulldog]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

Yes, styles do make fights, but here's the thing you are forgetting. Just because fighter A loses to fighter B and fighter B loses to fighter C doesn't mean fighter A will lose to fighter C. Case in point. Ali lost to Frazier, Frazier lost to Foreman, therefore it was widely predicted Ali would lose to Foreman, we all know what happened. Or how about the recent welterweight matches? Mosely loses to Cotto, Cotto loses to Margarito, therefore Mosely would lose to Margarito right? It didn't happen that way.

[mnmc10]

roach seems to be picking the right opponents for pac. roach said he wanted pbf next, if there is anyone who knows pacs ability its roach. if roach thinks pac can handle pbf then i guess he can.

we cannot compare pacs performances with jmm morales hoya anymore. we all saw that pac is getting better he is not the same pac who fought before. in pacs next fight i will expect the same pac that demolished cotto plus a whole lot more.

pac also showed us that he can take a punch on the body and head. mind you he got tagged by punches that he didnt even see.

the thing with pbf is that he is hard to hit! add that with his ability to pick punches. can pbf damage pac with his punches? maybe can pac open up pbf's defence with his quick gazillion angled punches? pac i think is smart enough not to get over excited or frustrated with pbf's style. does pbf experienced offence same as pac? did he do well?

[zhubin]

roach seems to be picking the right opponents for pac. roach said he wanted pbf next, if there is anyone who knows pacs ability its roach. if roach thinks pac can handle pbf then i guess he can.

we cannot compare pacs performances with jmm morales hoya anymore. we all saw that pac is getting better he is not the same pac who fought before. in pacs next fight i will expect the same pac that demolished cotto plus a whole lot more.

pac also showed us that he can take a punch on the body and head. mind you he got tagged by punches that he didnt even see.

the thing with pbf is that he is hard to hit! add that with his ability to pick punches. can pbf damage pac with his punches? maybe can pac open up pbf's defence with his quick gazillion angled punches? pac i think is smart enough not to get over excited or frustrated with pbf's style. does pbf experienced offence same as pac? did he do well?

Roach wants Floyd next because that will be his and his fighters biggest payday. I am not saying he doesn't have confidence in Manny against Floyd...but Roach knows deep down how difficult it is to beat Mayweather. It will also be a challenge for Floyd...because Floyd hasn't faced such a tremendous athlete at the top of his game before.

[SRR]

Boxing is about styles and where people are mentally. Hence why I picked Pacquiao to decimate Cotto.

But Pacquiao would get decimated by Mayweather.

Compared to Marquez, Mayweather is a better counter puncher, has better timing, is faster, is bigger, and hits harder. I think Mayweather would decimate Pacquiao. But the only thing people will say is that Mayweather doesn't look good vs southpaws. But i doubt that would make much of a difference since Pacquiao squares up.

But Mayweather is too good for Pacquiao because of how he locks down with his style, he would shut Pacquiao down. Arum knows that too. Unless Mayweather gets there first Pacquiao will be fighting Mosley or Berto.

Yes, styles do make fights, but here's the thing you are forgetting. Just because fighter A loses to fighter B and fighter B loses to fighter C doesn't mean fighter A will lose to fighter C. Case in point. Ali lost to Frazier, Frazier lost to Foreman, therefore it was widely predicted Ali would lose to Foreman, we all know what happened. Or how about the recent welterweight matches? Mosely loses to Cotto, Cotto loses to Margarito, therefore Mosely would lose to Margarito right? It didn't happen that way.

And Ali also beat Frazier twice after losing to him the first time, and Margacheato used plaster of paris to beat Cotto [Oh c'mon, we all know it, please don't argue the toss ]. And you've kind of missed the point, anyway, since he wasn't just saying that because 'fighter A loses to fighter B and fighter B loses to fighter C doesn't mean fighter A will lose to fighter C', he was saying that Marquez is a less lethal version of Mayweather, who gave Pac fits - and he's right. It's a fact, not an opinion based on who beat who [since Marquez never officially beat Pac, anyway, which makes your point/example null and void].

[halo1]

I like Pacquiao but after I saw PBF dismantling Marquez, I had doubts that Manny will have the tools to win against PBF. However, after the Cotto fight and what was said about PBF's power (or the lack of it), there seems to be a silver lining for Manny against his fight with PBF. Consider this:

1. I finally realized Manny's strength is his being so unorthodox. PBF is sweet science personified. What Manny does goes against every grain of what a boxer should do in the ring. He hits opponents and his feet are not properly planted. There was an article I read where they say Manny hits while suspended in air (?!?). His punches comes from really weird angles. I do not agree with Floyds' statement that Manny is one dimensional. Floyd is the complete package-multi dimensional, but Manny is a package coming from another dimension. The question is: how will Floyd prepapre for a fight against Manny? There is no boxer out there who does it like Pacquiao. Floyd was so good against JMM because he was fighting his shadow. Easy to prepare against. But with Manny, I am beggining to doubt if they will find a sparring partner that fights like Manny. Therefore, Floyd has to depend on his talent (and there is a lot of that) to adjust during the fight.

2. According to Roach and Castillo, Manny hits a lot harder than PBF. Therefore, PBF will only be able to win this bout by unanimous decision. A knockout win is possible but improbable. If Cotto could not put Manny down, it will be very doubtful that Floyd will have the power to put Manny away. Mind you, if Roach will be able to solve the shoulder roll of PBF, PBF will be in trouble (hire Pernel as a consultant perhaps?). Yes, PBF will hit Manny accurately a number of times, but if he is tagged with a big one, what would happen next? PBF will be wary of Manny's power. Manny will come in knowing he will not be that hurt if he gets tagged by PBF. He will not be scared to engage. A recipe for success or disaster?

My prediction? Who cares. I am definitely not an expert like some here in this forum. I just want this fight to happen and see who is the king of the hill.