Sorry for another Pacquiao thread, but this pissed me off

[fanjohn]

Not trying to hate bro but Mayweather did not make it without a sweat. He came 2 pounds over the limit against Marquez therefore had to pay a fined to him... /on another note.. This is ridiculously though Pacquiao is the 147 pound limit champion but has not and does not want to take the risk of fighting the max limit of 147.. smh

he doesn't have to. Nothings wrong if the 147 pound champ wants to come in at 145. No rule against that. But his opponents shouldn't be made to make the same weight. They should be able to weigh in from 141 to 147 at the weigh in. if Manny only wants to weigh in at 145 thats fine. but thats a personal preference, HIS personal preference, his opponent shouldn't have to do the same.

Exacty, well put man.. Pac can come in at 145 if he wants..

Floyd can come in at 146 or at 147 but he has to pay some penalties like what he did in his JMM fight where he came in 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight and paid $600,000 penalty.

The fight is off if anyone will come in more than 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight.

[purtyboy]

he doesn't have to. Nothings wrong if the 147 pound champ wants to come in at 145. No rule against that. But his opponents shouldn't be made to make the same weight. They should be able to weigh in from 141 to 147 at the weigh in. if Manny only wants to weigh in at 145 thats fine. but thats a personal preference, HIS personal preference, his opponent shouldn't have to do the same.

Exacty, well put man.. Pac can come in at 145 if he wants..

Floyd can come in at 146 or at 147 but he has to pay some penalties like what he did in his JMM fight where he came in 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight and paid $600,000 penalty.

The fight is off if anyone will come in more than 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight.

But you know if Floyd comes in over the limit just like in the Marquez fight most people will cry and IF Floyd was to win the fight alot would blame it on coming over the limit...

[Majesty]

Exacty, well put man.. Pac can come in at 145 if he wants..

Floyd can come in at 146 or at 147 but he has to pay some penalties like what he did in his JMM fight where he came in 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight and paid $600,000 penalty.

The fight is off if anyone will come in more than 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight.

But you know if Floyd comes in over the limit just like in the Marquez fight most people will cry and IF Floyd was to win the fight alot would blame it on coming over the limit...

Said it once I'll say it again. Weighing heavier then your opponent has nothing to do with. Out-timing, outspeeding, outboxing and out-defensing another fighter.

But against Pacquiao if it was at the 147 pound weight limit. I don't think Mayweather would come in over. If it was 145 I'm unsure, Mayweather is the kind of person who isn't going to disadvantage himself and wants to come into a fight the best shape possible. I don't think we'll get a Pacquiao fight if Roach wants them to fight at 145. Roach makes more stipulations then Mayweather ever would.

[Myk_Myk]

Exactly! You guys are acting like Roach chiseled a stone tablet. Whoever Pac fights will have their position on the particulars, and they'll have to hash out concessions on both sides. If it's PBF, he'll have some pretty strong bargaining power on his side...

[fanjohn]

Exacty, well put man.. Pac can come in at 145 if he wants..

Floyd can come in at 146 or at 147 but he has to pay some penalties like what he did in his JMM fight where he came in 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight and paid $600,000 penalty.

The fight is off if anyone will come in more than 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight.

But you know if Floyd comes in over the limit just like in the Marquez fight most people will cry and IF Floyd was to win the fight alot would blame it on coming over the limit...

Floyd got criticized when he came in over the contracted weight since he signed/agreed the contract for that weight. That's why Floyd was penalized coz he didn't follow the contract.

145 lbs. seems the most fair and logical weight for Pacquiao-Floyd fight. It's 1 lb less than Floyd's last weigh-in weight and 1 lb. more than Pacquiao's last weigh-in weight.

[purtyboy]

Floyd can come in at 146 or at 147 but he has to pay some penalties like what he did in his JMM fight where he came in 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight and paid $600,000 penalty.

The fight is off if anyone will come in more than 2 lbs. over the agreed contracted weight.

But you know if Floyd comes in over the limit just like in the Marquez fight most people will cry and IF Floyd was to win the fight alot would blame it on coming over the limit...

Floyd got criticized when he came in over the contracted weight since he signed/agreed the contract for that weight. That's why Floyd was penalized coz he didn't follow the contract.

145 lbs. seems the most fair and logical weight for Pacquiao-Floyd fight. It's 1 lb less than Floyd's last weigh-in weight and 1 lb. more than Pacquiao's last weigh-in weight.

In all honestly i just hope this fight gets made no matter at what weight... lol.. Although i don't like catch weights.. this fight needs to be made! I pick Mayweather UD

[jamiebhoy]

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[fanjohn]

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pac is a WW (147) champion and a Jr. WW (140) champion at the same time. Those were the belts he's currently holding now.

But these belt titles doesn't really matter. It's not the primary reason why Pacquiao vs. Mayweather should be made. The fight is not for who's the best WW or Jr. WW boxer.

This fight is all about the best fighting the best in P4P terms.

[jamiebhoy]

Here's a link re the weight classes, no one is arguing really that Pac is WW champion, what the point is, is that he is dictating what weight his opponent comes in at , that's not how it works. The sanctioning bodies recognise the classes and should stop supporting catch weights.

List of boxing weight classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pac is a WW (147) champion and a Jr. WW (140) champion at the same time. Those were the belts he's currently holding now.

But these belt titles doesn't really matter. It's not the primary reason why Pacquiao vs. Mayweather should be made. The fight is not for who's the best WW or Jr. WW boxer.

This fight is all about the best fighting the best in P4P terms.

If we keep using the P4P argument and not addressing the fact there are weight classes then we'll have a WW or MW challenging David Haye next. If catch weights keep getting made then someone is going to get seriously f***d up due to trying to make a weight they shouldn't be at becasue the opposition demended it and not the governing bodies.

[JazMerkin]

Most people seem to have missed my main problem. It is not the wanting to bring Mayweather down to 145, although that pisses me off as it did with the Cotto fight, it is saying Marquez has to come up to 145. What so Pacquiao can't make 140, but he's too small for 147?

If he's too small, then fight Marquez at 140. If he can't make that fight Mayweather at 147.

Someone mentioned the fight-night weigh-ins for Mayweather-Marquez, apparently Ring Magazine were allowed to weigh both & gave the weights in their latest issue, Marquez was 147 & Mayweather was 152. You can check that in their latest issue.

Btw, I should say welcome back XaduBoxer, where did you come up with the name fanjohn?