Joe Calzaghe haters lets do some irrational hating

[Tysonbruno]

Wonder who changed my title bet it was MR FACT.

I only did this as people start there own thread then it gets taken over by hate for Calzaghe and we drift away from the threads original point.

[Fenster]

Wonder who changed my title bet it was MR FACT.

I only did this as people start there own thread then it gets taken over by hate for Calzaghe and we drift away from the threads original point.

You're not as stupid as you look.

[ryanman]

haha, good work Fenster!

[blegit]

I had Calzaghe as the #1 p4p guy when he retired. No one knew how one dimensional Lacy was until Calzaghe took the chance and exposed him. But you can't excuse some of the things people gripe about Calzaghe's career. He did pull out of many fights that would've been interesting/challenging. Namely, Glen Johnson twice. He never left 168 until very late. Trouble dragging him out of his backyard. There are many rightful gripes but you can't deny that Calzaghe was some talent.

[El Kabong]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

[southpaw85]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck


Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

F**k me, he beat everyone put in front of him.
You keep saying he waited till Jones and hopkins were too old, Joe was only 3-4 years younger, all thats doing is making excuces for Roy and the like. Much like people do with muhummad ali late in his career, getting beaten by allcomers. If Roy jones and the other boys were too old, then they shouldn't of gotten in the ring.

NO EXCUSES!!!!!


big Joe is the man, undefeated man that is

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Lyle, Joe wasn't in his prime by the time he fought Hopkins.

He probably wasn't a fighter in his prime when he fought Evans Ashira... He's hand problems have been rife and his power has suffered GREATLY since around 2005.

The man put Eubank on his arse; he had power

[johnmaff36]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck


Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

F**k me, he beat everyone put in front of him.
You keep saying he waited till Jones and hopkins were too old, Joe was only 3-4 years younger, all thats doing is making excuces for Roy and the like. Much like people do with muhummad ali late in his career, getting beaten by allcomers. If Roy jones and the other boys were too old, then they shouldn't of gotten in the ring.

NO EXCUSES!!!!!


big Joe is the man, undefeated man that is

Thats most peoples point! Yes, he did beat everyone put in front of him because he picked and chose his opponents. He pulled out of god knows how many fights that ive lost count. He never pulled out of fights against bums i noticed.

[ryanman]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

Lyle, you know Calzaghe was not exactly in his prime when he fought Jones and Hopkins. You know enough about boxing and Calzaghe to know that. You are making a populist statement in the hope its convinces a few more people. But i don't think you yourself believe the 36 year old Calzaghe that took on them two was 'prime'.

[eagle]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

Lyle, you know Calzaghe was not exactly in his prime when he fought Jones and Hopkins. You know enough about boxing and Calzaghe to know that. You are making a populist statement in the hope its convinces a few more people. But i don't think you yourself believe the 36 year old Calzaghe that took on them two was 'prime'.

He was far closer to his prime than Jones or Hopkins tho.

[TheBranMan]

I never cared much for Calzaghe or his horrible trainer/father....but Ricky Hatton should have followed in Joe's career path. Go from Kostya Tszyu to Sharmba Mitchell to Erik Morales to Marco Antonio Barerra to a couple more old fuckers at 147 and then retire undefeated.

If Ottke, Calzaghe, or Michalczweski had the stones to come to the US to fight RJJ in the late 90's early 2000's then they would have had the shit beaten right out of them and hell even OLD Roy and OLD Hopkins gave a PRIME Joe Calzaghe trouble.

It must be a hollow feeling being "the best" just because you never dared to take a live challenge....oh well, I'm sure this will just go down as me hating on the Brits but like I give a fuck

Calzaghe was extremely talented but he never tested himself....I don't mean to seem 100% one sided but it kind of pisses me off when he had the chance to fight RJJ and Hopkins at various points in his career and never did it until late and RJJ and Hopkins piss me off because they had chances to take on bigger fish but waited too long too, although Roy did fight better competition than Hopkins and Hopkins fought better competition than Calzaghe.

I agree. As far as British champs go, I'd pick Calzaghe as one of the better ones. I would've loved to see Calzaghe test himself in facing a young Jones or even a younger BHop. The narrow victory over a 43 year old Hopkins just wasn't enough to prove to me that hes a "living legend". Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and I think he may have even had the potential to be named among the ATGs, but he just never proved it. Yes he beat everyone that he faced, but it's the quality of opposition and the performances that you put on, not just the win on your record. If Julio Caesar Chavez Jr retired today with his undefeated record, would you call him a "living legend"?