Mundine thrown out of Green party!

[OumaFan]

Some comedy gold in this thread Hopkins-Green in Las Vegas would draw some Bernard fans, LOL that's the definition of a not very big fight. And the chances of him going to Australia are slim and none.

[Violent Demise]

Some comedy gold in this thread Hopkins-Green in Las Vegas would draw some Bernard fans, LOL that's the definition of a not very big fight. And the chances of him going to Australia are slim and none.

"Whether Hopkins likes it or not Danny Green is now the man" That right there takes the prize.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Some comedy gold in this thread Hopkins-Green in Las Vegas would draw some Bernard fans, LOL that's the definition of a not very big fight. And the chances of him going to Australia are slim and none.

"Whether Hopkins likes it or not Danny Green is now the man" That right there takes the prize.

I knew i would get some bites with that, fantastic. it was actually a dig at Anthony Mundine whose nickname is 'The Man' (that went over everyones head it seems) Green has thrown a spanner in the works and no one really knows what to make of Green. I wanted to see Jones V Hopkins too, it won't happen now. I find it amusing that just a few months ago people were oh so impressed with Jones jr against Lacy? Now he gets KO'd in 1 round Green appears to get all the flak for doing it? Strange thoughts happening here, so just exactly what does Bernard Hopkins want to do? Hopkins would have a lot tougher fight with Danny Green than he did with Kelly Pavlik, i suspect many fighters will avoid Green like the plague in 2010.

[jamiebhoy]

Some comedy gold in this thread Hopkins-Green in Las Vegas would draw some Bernard fans, LOL that's the definition of a not very big fight. And the chances of him going to Australia are slim and none.

"Whether Hopkins likes it or not Danny Green is now the man" That right there takes the prize.

I knew i would get some bites with that, fantastic. it was actually a dig at Anthony Mundine whose nickname is 'The Man' (that went over everyones head it seems) Green has thrown a spanner in the works and no one really knows what to make of Green. I wanted to see Jones V Hopkins too, it won't happen now. I find it amusing that just a few months ago people were oh so impressed with Jones jr against Lacy? Now he gets KO'd in 1 round Green appears to get all the flak for doing it? Strange thoughts happening here, so just exactly what does Bernard Hopkins want to do? Hopkins would have a lot tougher fight with Danny Green than he did with Kelly Pavlik, i suspect many fighters will avoid Green like the plague in 2010.

Spot on mate, the same people that were saying green was shit before the fight now say he only one because it was in fact Jones who was shot, not its a case of he is so bad Hopkins wouldn't want him. The truth is a lot of people will not want any part of Green because he is so unknown, you just never know any more who might put a spanner in the works.

At the end of the day two guys accept a fight that's made and one will win (barring a draw obviously) sometimes a guy will come along and not read the script and piss on the parade.End of story, you can harp on about RJJ being a legend which may be true but he got sparked out , whether he was done,Green caught him out, Jones took him easy , whatever. Ask the question , who brings more to the table now, Green can call people out more convincingly by saying I got RJJ and you said I couldn't do it.

What can Roy say, oh Bernard let's do it for old times sake and forget my trip to Australia in Europe.

[p4pking]

Some comedy gold in this thread Hopkins-Green in Las Vegas would draw some Bernard fans, LOL that's the definition of a not very big fight. And the chances of him going to Australia are slim and none.

"Whether Hopkins likes it or not Danny Green is now the man" That right there takes the prize.

I knew i would get some bites with that, fantastic. it was actually a dig at Anthony Mundine whose nickname is 'The Man' (that went over everyones head it seems) Green has thrown a spanner in the works and no one really knows what to make of Green. I wanted to see Jones V Hopkins too, it won't happen now. I find it amusing that just a few months ago people were oh so impressed with Jones jr against Lacy? Now he gets KO'd in 1 round Green appears to get all the flak for doing it? Strange thoughts happening here, so just exactly what does Bernard Hopkins want to do? Hopkins would have a lot tougher fight with Danny Green than he did with Kelly Pavlik, i suspect many fighters will avoid Green like the plague in 2010.

Im not really sure your right there... Certainly a bit tougher, but realistically Green has about the same kind of arsenal that Pavlik does, and is a similar kind of fighter. Flat footed, need to be set to punch, and never has a plan B. Hopkins and Roy Jones at this point are just such different animals, there's almost nothing to take from Green winning in that fashion as far as Hopkins should be concered, at least imo. Sure it was an upset and fairly shocking at that, but Roy Jones has been violently knocked out twice before, and hadn't fought a live body his own size since then. Green has shown in the past he comes unglued and doesn't have a plan B when someone gets into a rythym, he can be outboxed quite easily. Unless you really think he's about to steamroll Hopkins like that in the first, I see almost no reason to get excited about his chances whatsoever. Hopkins outclasses him 99 times out of 100 imo.

[Greig]

Hopkins fights about 30 seconds a round these days, but he fights it that well that its enough to beat most people.

People point to the Pavlik fight... Well Pavlik had bronchitis and was fighting 10 pounds outside his ideal weight class. Pavlik had no energy, no snap in his punches. I'm not saying he would have beaten Hopkins if he was 100%, but he would have been a lot more competitive. So my point is people saying Hopkins is sensational because of that performance are somewhat delusional. I think he deserves credit for the Tarver performance, but the Winky Wright and Pavlik fights I think, well, he beat up on much smaller guys, one of whom had bronchitis. Apart from Tarver, he hasn't fought a genuine 175 pounder yet...

You want to see how to beat Hopkins? Look at Calzaghe - he beat hm with blinding hand speed and work rate. The way Hopkins was looking to the ref for a breather in that fight was disgraceful. Now, credit to Hopkins - it was still a close fight, but Joe won no question.

That's the way to beat him - make the 45 year old work his bollocks off. I think Green could do that. MORE IMPORTANTLY, Green is the bigger guy, bigger puncher, bigger risk. That's why you'll never see the fight.


I think Green is a beast at 175, his last fights at 168 against Beyer and Mundine, he was a weight drained shell.

[Greig]

And while I'm bagging Hopkins:-


De La Hoya
Trinidad
Winky
Pavlik
Calzaghe (yeah I know he lost)


Seems all B-Hops big fights have been against guys moving up. Apart from Tarver, when has he ever moved up and fought a guy much bigger than him?

Think all this heavyweight talk is bullshit myself

[p4pking]

Hopkins fights about 30 seconds a round these days, but he fights it that well that its enough to beat most people.

People point to the Pavlik fight... Well Pavlik had bronchitis and was fighting 10 pounds outside his ideal weight class. Pavlik had no energy, no snap in his punches. I'm not saying he would have beaten Hopkins if he was 100%, but he would have been a lot more competitive. So my point is people saying Hopkins is sensational because of that performance are somewhat delusional. I think he deserves credit for the Tarver performance, but the Winky Wright and Pavlik fights I think, well, he beat up on much smaller guys, one of whom had bronchitis. Apart from Tarver, he hasn't fought a genuine 175 pounder yet...

You want to see how to beat Hopkins? Look at Calzaghe - he beat hm with blinding hand speed and work rate. The way Hopkins was looking to the ref for a breather in that fight was disgraceful. Now, credit to Hopkins - it was still a close fight, but Joe won no question.

That's the way to beat him - make the 45 year old work his bollocks off. I think Green could do that. MORE IMPORTANTLY, Green is the bigger guy, bigger puncher, bigger risk. That's why you'll never see the fight.


I think Green is a beast at 175, his last fights at 168 against Beyer and Mundine, he was a weight drained shell.

It's hardly that simple. Calzaghe made Hopkins work more than anyone has ever done, as far as pressing the fight and taking him out of his comfort zone, and many(myself included) think it could have gone either way. Danny Green doesn't have half the modicum of skill, slickness, speed, basically anything Calzaghe has. He is a polar opposite stylstically, and yet you are trying to draw from the Calzaghe fight to explain how he could beat Hopkins? He is SLOW, he has to be set to punch, and he has been outboxed by guys who are nowhere near Hopkins level. If he rushes forward throwing punches like he did against Roy Hopkins is going to counter him hard and often, then Danny will get reluctant to engage, and come apart of the next 11 rounds. It's an incredibly easy fight to predict imo, Danny Green is not beating Hopkins.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

This thread had me tearing up with laughter a few times. Green Hopkins in Vegas... **Cricket Chirp - Cough**

[THE THIRD MAN]

"Whether Hopkins likes it or not Danny Green is now the man" That right there takes the prize.

I knew i would get some bites with that, fantastic. it was actually a dig at Anthony Mundine whose nickname is 'The Man' (that went over everyones head it seems) Green has thrown a spanner in the works and no one really knows what to make of Green. I wanted to see Jones V Hopkins too, it won't happen now. I find it amusing that just a few months ago people were oh so impressed with Jones jr against Lacy? Now he gets KO'd in 1 round Green appears to get all the flak for doing it? Strange thoughts happening here, so just exactly what does Bernard Hopkins want to do? Hopkins would have a lot tougher fight with Danny Green than he did with Kelly Pavlik, i suspect many fighters will avoid Green like the plague in 2010.

Im not really sure your right there... Certainly a bit tougher, but realistically Green has about the same kind of arsenal that Pavlik does, and is a similar kind of fighter. Flat footed, need to be set to punch, and never has a plan B. Hopkins and Roy Jones at this point are just such different animals, there's almost nothing to take from Green winning in that fashion as far as Hopkins should be concered, at least imo. Sure it was an upset and fairly shocking at that, but Roy Jones has been violently knocked out twice before, and hadn't fought a live body his own size since then. Green has shown in the past he comes unglued and doesn't have a plan B when someone gets into a rythym, he can be outboxed quite easily. Unless you really think he's about to steamroll Hopkins like that in the first, I see almost no reason to get excited about his chances whatsoever. Hopkins outclasses him 99 times out of 100 imo.

I agree, one of my criticisms of Green is he is or was a little wooden in his approach, almost predictable, Beyer out boxed him in the second fight with a masterful display of boxing and Green never had a plan B. From what i have seen of Green recently he has learned a lot from those defeats to Beyer and Mundine. I think Hopkins would find a way of beating him, it just might be a little more difficult than he thinks. Green is twice the fighter he was 3-4 years ago. We may never know and judging by some of the comments about Green on this thread, people are still afraid of the unknown!

[Violent Demise]

I knew i would get some bites with that, fantastic. it was actually a dig at Anthony Mundine whose nickname is 'The Man' (that went over everyones head it seems) Green has thrown a spanner in the works and no one really knows what to make of Green. I wanted to see Jones V Hopkins too, it won't happen now. I find it amusing that just a few months ago people were oh so impressed with Jones jr against Lacy? Now he gets KO'd in 1 round Green appears to get all the flak for doing it? Strange thoughts happening here, so just exactly what does Bernard Hopkins want to do? Hopkins would have a lot tougher fight with Danny Green than he did with Kelly Pavlik, i suspect many fighters will avoid Green like the plague in 2010.

Im not really sure your right there... Certainly a bit tougher, but realistically Green has about the same kind of arsenal that Pavlik does, and is a similar kind of fighter. Flat footed, need to be set to punch, and never has a plan B. Hopkins and Roy Jones at this point are just such different animals, there's almost nothing to take from Green winning in that fashion as far as Hopkins should be concered, at least imo. Sure it was an upset and fairly shocking at that, but Roy Jones has been violently knocked out twice before, and hadn't fought a live body his own size since then. Green has shown in the past he comes unglued and doesn't have a plan B when someone gets into a rythym, he can be outboxed quite easily. Unless you really think he's about to steamroll Hopkins like that in the first, I see almost no reason to get excited about his chances whatsoever. Hopkins outclasses him 99 times out of 100 imo.

I agree, one of my criticisms of Green is he is or was a little wooden in his approach, almost predictable, Beyer out boxed him in the second fight with a masterful display of boxing and Green never had a plan B. From what i have seen of Green recently he has learned a lot from those defeats to Beyer and Mundine. I think Hopkins would find a way of beating him, it just might be a little more difficult than he thinks. Green is twice the fighter he was 3-4 years ago. We may never know and judging by some of the comments about Green on this thread, people are still afraid of the unknown!

What unknown? I seen over 15 of Danny Green fights. It's not hard to see what to expect. He's a stronger fighter with a big punch. Not more. The fact that a shot Roy Jones is his biggest win say it all. It's unacceptable for a fighter 2 lose to both Anthony Mundine and Markus Beyer and think he's a good fighter. Maybe a lose to one can be excused. But to lose to both is unacceptable.

[OumaFan]

I never said Green was crap personally and I've been saying Roy was shot to pieces for a while, I was happy that Green got the win.

But its just not a serious option for Bernard I don't think. Hopkins-Green is not a Las Vegas fight, and why would he go to Australia? Green is too dangerous for a tuneup Ornelas type fight (let me say I don't think he's that dangerous to Hopkins but he's not a tune up), it would have to be a big money fight and is it really? Definitely not in Vegas. And its not really a legacy fight either although lets face it money is first here.

Bernard might retire. Either that or Adamek.

Edit-Bernard did look a bit off the other night and got hit with some decent shots, a Green win isn't totally out of the question but he's a bit made for Bernard really. Chad Dawson would beat Bernard.

[Andre]

Im not really sure your right there... Certainly a bit tougher, but realistically Green has about the same kind of arsenal that Pavlik does, and is a similar kind of fighter. Flat footed, need to be set to punch, and never has a plan B. Hopkins and Roy Jones at this point are just such different animals, there's almost nothing to take from Green winning in that fashion as far as Hopkins should be concered, at least imo. Sure it was an upset and fairly shocking at that, but Roy Jones has been violently knocked out twice before, and hadn't fought a live body his own size since then. Green has shown in the past he comes unglued and doesn't have a plan B when someone gets into a rythym, he can be outboxed quite easily. Unless you really think he's about to steamroll Hopkins like that in the first, I see almost no reason to get excited about his chances whatsoever. Hopkins outclasses him 99 times out of 100 imo.

I agree, one of my criticisms of Green is he is or was a little wooden in his approach, almost predictable, Beyer out boxed him in the second fight with a masterful display of boxing and Green never had a plan B. From what i have seen of Green recently he has learned a lot from those defeats to Beyer and Mundine. I think Hopkins would find a way of beating him, it just might be a little more difficult than he thinks. Green is twice the fighter he was 3-4 years ago. We may never know and judging by some of the comments about Green on this thread, people are still afraid of the unknown!

What unknown? I seen over 15 of Danny Green fights. It's not hard to see what to expect. He's a stronger fighter with a big punch. Not more. The fact that a shot Roy Jones is his biggest win say it all. It's unacceptable for a fighter 2 lose to both Anthony Mundine and Markus Beyer and think he's a good fighter. Maybe a lose to one can be excused. But to lose to both is unacceptable.

True and its a reflection of the state of Australian boxing when everyones hopes gets pinned on a fighter such as the case with Danny Green now.

The crowds of general public in the venue and in all pubs watching all over Aust shows how hungry all the normal punters are for a Champion to rise.

Boxing is far from dead here but many dudes are under some false illusion as to what is great and what isnt.

[THE THIRD MAN]

Im not really sure your right there... Certainly a bit tougher, but realistically Green has about the same kind of arsenal that Pavlik does, and is a similar kind of fighter. Flat footed, need to be set to punch, and never has a plan B. Hopkins and Roy Jones at this point are just such different animals, there's almost nothing to take from Green winning in that fashion as far as Hopkins should be concered, at least imo. Sure it was an upset and fairly shocking at that, but Roy Jones has been violently knocked out twice before, and hadn't fought a live body his own size since then. Green has shown in the past he comes unglued and doesn't have a plan B when someone gets into a rythym, he can be outboxed quite easily. Unless you really think he's about to steamroll Hopkins like that in the first, I see almost no reason to get excited about his chances whatsoever. Hopkins outclasses him 99 times out of 100 imo.

I agree, one of my criticisms of Green is he is or was a little wooden in his approach, almost predictable, Beyer out boxed him in the second fight with a masterful display of boxing and Green never had a plan B. From what i have seen of Green recently he has learned a lot from those defeats to Beyer and Mundine. I think Hopkins would find a way of beating him, it just might be a little more difficult than he thinks. Green is twice the fighter he was 3-4 years ago. We may never know and judging by some of the comments about Green on this thread, people are still afraid of the unknown!

What unknown? I seen over 15 of Danny Green fights. It's not hard to see what to expect. He's a stronger fighter with a big punch. Not more. The fact that a shot Roy Jones is his biggest win say it all. It's unacceptable for a fighter 2 lose to both Anthony Mundine and Markus Beyer and think he's a good fighter. Maybe a lose to one can be excused. But to lose to both is unacceptable.

You mean the same Roy Jones good enough to fight Joe Calzaghe just last year and the same Roy Jones Beranrd Hopkins wanted to fight next March? That shot Roy Jones? It appears to me that Danny Green would have been better off losing this fight to Jones?
Maybe Bernard Hopkins shouldn't have lost to Jermaine Taylor either...Twice!