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    The Khan hate is unreal. He wins in 76 seconds and people just rubbish it and say forget that win.

    When he beats Juan Manuel Marquez towards the end of next year they will rubbish that too claiming he was clearly past it after losing to Floyd and Amir got him at the right time.

    I will of course put up my thread from six months ago when I pointed out this would happen 18 months before and I predicted exactly how the haters would respond even though they rubbished my claims at the time.

    But it is as it is, Khan is truly world class. Yes his chin is suspect, but in every other aspect he's as talented as anyone out there and has the potential to beat anyone from 135-140 and and will in time fill out to welterweight too.
    Because Dmitriy Salita was crap, not a single person on here that i see. Thought this really was a serious fight, he had a rubbish chin and had a ridiculously padded record.

    Its not hate its just frustration wanting to see him fight, some legit opposition any of the opponents i listed would be fine.

    What world class opponents has Amir Khan beat ? you say i overrate Lucian Bute wins, well tell me what win Amir Khan has on his record that impresses you ?

    I think its a bit ridiculous to say he would beat someone, of JMM's class or any world class opponent. When he hasn't even beaten the best that Britain has to offer.
    The difference between Khan and Bute is firstly, he's seven years younger and is already a world champ whereas Bute at the same age hadn't even turned professional.

    Secondly nobody is trying to make a claim that Amir Khan is the number 1 at light welter like Bute is alleged to be according to the Ring.

    If the Ring were to rank Amir as number 1 at lightweight I would say it was ridiculous also and point out that Bradley, Diaz, Hatton and arguably Nate Campbell and Devon Alexander should be above him.

    It's a completely different argument.

    The kid is sensational for his age, I'll repeat what I said to Kel, show me the other young kids of 22 or younger who have done more than Amir Khan.

    He's one of the very best prospects in boxing, its simply not in dispute.
    You can't compare there age, Lucian Bute started professionally alot older than Amir Khan did. But when Lucian Bute had 23 fights the same amount Amir Khan has now, he had beaten better quality opposition than Amir Khan by quite a big margin.

    Im not saying your claiming Amir Khan is number 1, what im saying is how the hell can you say Amir Khan is this and that. When he hasn't beaten one single world class opponent or one good opponent ?

    Shouldn't you wait and see how he does vs a puncher, or any of the other names i listed before. Before you start saying he would beat JMM and ETC.

    I don't like Amir Khan but i don't hate him, im more frustrated than anything else. That he isn't fighting any legit opponents, after this fight he has to fight atleast Marcos Rene Maidana.

    If he beats him i will give him credit, because not only has he beat a puncher. He's beaten a fighter with a name whos a live dangerous opponent.

    I also never said he wasn't a good prospect, i just want to know good he truly is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Because Dmitriy Salita was crap, not a single person on here that i see. Thought this really was a serious fight, he had a rubbish chin and had a ridiculously padded record.

    Its not hate its just frustration wanting to see him fight, some legit opposition any of the opponents i listed would be fine.

    What world class opponents has Amir Khan beat ? you say i overrate Lucian Bute wins, well tell me what win Amir Khan has on his record that impresses you ?

    I think its a bit ridiculous to say he would beat someone, of JMM's class or any world class opponent. When he hasn't even beaten the best that Britain has to offer.
    The difference between Khan and Bute is firstly, he's seven years younger and is already a world champ whereas Bute at the same age hadn't even turned professional.

    Secondly nobody is trying to make a claim that Amir Khan is the number 1 at light welter like Bute is alleged to be according to the Ring.

    If the Ring were to rank Amir as number 1 at lightweight I would say it was ridiculous also and point out that Bradley, Diaz, Hatton and arguably Nate Campbell and Devon Alexander should be above him.

    It's a completely different argument.

    The kid is sensational for his age, I'll repeat what I said to Kel, show me the other young kids of 22 or younger who have done more than Amir Khan.

    He's one of the very best prospects in boxing, its simply not in dispute.
    You can't compare there age, Lucian Bute started professionally alot older than Amir Khan did. But when Lucian Bute had 23 fights the same amount Amir Khan has now, he had beaten better quality opposition than Amir Khan by quite a big margin.

    Im not saying your claiming Amir Khan is number 1, what im saying is how the hell can you say Amir Khan is this and that. When he hasn't beaten one single world class opponent or one good opponent ?

    Shouldn't you wait and see how he does vs a puncher, or any of the other names i listed before. Before you start saying he would beat JMM and ETC.

    I don't like Amir Khan but i don't hate him, im more frustrated than anything else. That he isn't fighting any legit opponents, after this fight he has to fight atleast Marcos Rene Maidana.

    If he beats him i will give him credit, because not only has he beat a puncher. He's beaten a fighter with a name whos a live dangerous opponent.

    I also never said he wasn't a good prospect, i just want to know good he truly is.
    If that's true why do you feel the need to disrespect him then? I mean why create a thread with the title 'Forget the Amir Khan fight...'. I mean you think it was a soft opponent, ok fair enough, but he blitzed him in truly sensational style and made his first world title defence inside 76 seconds. That's impressive, whether the guy was world class or not. Why can't you just praise Kevin Mitchell's performance without raining on Amir?

    There are so many of you who absolutely hate on him, whenever he fights all we get his hate threads afterwards with people whining about him.

    If you don't hate him, and think he is a good prospect then give him a chance.

    Let me ask you this, how he could he possibly have been moved any faster in his last four fights than he has been?

    He came off a devastating 1 round loss, and so went in with Osin Fagin. A respectable opponent for a comeback fight but a light hitter obviously, certainly no different from Cotto coming back against Michael Jennings, a sensible choice.

    Then he got paired with Barrera, a fight where most laughed when it was announced saying he would get killed. Then he won every single round. The cut was very unfortunate, but not Amir's fault, he still did his job.

    Then he fought for a world title fight, and ANY world title fight is a big fight.

    He wins that and makes his mandatory and wins that.

    So let me ask you, in that space of time, what more could he have done? He had to take a comeback fight, he then defeated a legend, then won a world title, then defended it against the mandatory guy he HAD to defend against.

    What more could he have done?

    Kevin Mitchell is 25 and has only stepped up to Breidas Prescott level tonight.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    which fucking retard thought a blown-up and shot barrera would kill khan? what a fucking dumbass he must be.

    that was a farcical match-up.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    I quickly flashed through 12 rounds of Kevin Mitchell Jogging round the ring. I better go back and pay more attention.... Was it really that good of a performance?
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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    The difference between Khan and Bute is firstly, he's seven years younger and is already a world champ whereas Bute at the same age hadn't even turned professional.

    Secondly nobody is trying to make a claim that Amir Khan is the number 1 at light welter like Bute is alleged to be according to the Ring.

    If the Ring were to rank Amir as number 1 at lightweight I would say it was ridiculous also and point out that Bradley, Diaz, Hatton and arguably Nate Campbell and Devon Alexander should be above him.

    It's a completely different argument.

    The kid is sensational for his age, I'll repeat what I said to Kel, show me the other young kids of 22 or younger who have done more than Amir Khan.

    He's one of the very best prospects in boxing, its simply not in dispute.
    You can't compare there age, Lucian Bute started professionally alot older than Amir Khan did. But when Lucian Bute had 23 fights the same amount Amir Khan has now, he had beaten better quality opposition than Amir Khan by quite a big margin.

    Im not saying your claiming Amir Khan is number 1, what im saying is how the hell can you say Amir Khan is this and that. When he hasn't beaten one single world class opponent or one good opponent ?

    Shouldn't you wait and see how he does vs a puncher, or any of the other names i listed before. Before you start saying he would beat JMM and ETC.

    I don't like Amir Khan but i don't hate him, im more frustrated than anything else. That he isn't fighting any legit opponents, after this fight he has to fight atleast Marcos Rene Maidana.

    If he beats him i will give him credit, because not only has he beat a puncher. He's beaten a fighter with a name whos a live dangerous opponent.

    I also never said he wasn't a good prospect, i just want to know good he truly is.
    If that's true why do you feel the need to disrespect him then? I mean why create a thread with the title 'Forget the Amir Khan fight...'. I mean you think it was a soft opponent, ok fair enough, but he blitzed him in truly sensational style and made his first world title defence inside 76 seconds. That's impressive, whether the guy was world class or not. Why can't you just praise Kevin Mitchell's performance without raining on Amir?

    There are so many of you who absolutely hate on him, whenever he fights all we get his hate threads afterwards with people whining about him.

    If you don't hate him, and think he is a good prospect then give him a chance.

    Let me ask you this, how he could he possibly have been moved any faster in his last four fights than he has been?

    He came off a devastating 1 round loss, and so went in with Osin Fagin. A respectable opponent for a comeback fight but a light hitter obviously, certainly no different from Cotto coming back against Michael Jennings, a sensible choice.

    Then he got paired with Barrera, a fight where most laughed when it was announced saying he would get killed. Then he won every single round. The cut was very unfortunate, but not Amir's fault, he still did his job.

    Then he fought for a world title fight, and ANY world title fight is a big fight.

    He wins that and makes his mandatory and wins that.

    So let me ask you, in that space of time, what more could he have done? He had to take a comeback fight, he then defeated a legend, then won a world title, then defended it against the mandatory guy he HAD to defend against.

    What more could he have done?

    Kevin Mitchell is 25 and has only stepped up to Breidas Prescott level tonight.
    He could of faced an opponent who hits harder than a 12 year old girl. It's pretty obvious every opponent he's faced since the Prescott debacle are non-punches. How can he be improved if he's still being protected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    You can't compare there age, Lucian Bute started professionally alot older than Amir Khan did. But when Lucian Bute had 23 fights the same amount Amir Khan has now, he had beaten better quality opposition than Amir Khan by quite a big margin.

    Im not saying your claiming Amir Khan is number 1, what im saying is how the hell can you say Amir Khan is this and that. When he hasn't beaten one single world class opponent or one good opponent ?

    Shouldn't you wait and see how he does vs a puncher, or any of the other names i listed before. Before you start saying he would beat JMM and ETC.

    I don't like Amir Khan but i don't hate him, im more frustrated than anything else. That he isn't fighting any legit opponents, after this fight he has to fight atleast Marcos Rene Maidana.

    If he beats him i will give him credit, because not only has he beat a puncher. He's beaten a fighter with a name whos a live dangerous opponent.

    I also never said he wasn't a good prospect, i just want to know good he truly is.
    If that's true why do you feel the need to disrespect him then? I mean why create a thread with the title 'Forget the Amir Khan fight...'. I mean you think it was a soft opponent, ok fair enough, but he blitzed him in truly sensational style and made his first world title defence inside 76 seconds. That's impressive, whether the guy was world class or not. Why can't you just praise Kevin Mitchell's performance without raining on Amir?

    There are so many of you who absolutely hate on him, whenever he fights all we get his hate threads afterwards with people whining about him.

    If you don't hate him, and think he is a good prospect then give him a chance.

    Let me ask you this, how he could he possibly have been moved any faster in his last four fights than he has been?

    He came off a devastating 1 round loss, and so went in with Osin Fagin. A respectable opponent for a comeback fight but a light hitter obviously, certainly no different from Cotto coming back against Michael Jennings, a sensible choice.

    Then he got paired with Barrera, a fight where most laughed when it was announced saying he would get killed. Then he won every single round. The cut was very unfortunate, but not Amir's fault, he still did his job.

    Then he fought for a world title fight, and ANY world title fight is a big fight.

    He wins that and makes his mandatory and wins that.

    So let me ask you, in that space of time, what more could he have done? He had to take a comeback fight, he then defeated a legend, then won a world title, then defended it against the mandatory guy he HAD to defend against.

    What more could he have done?

    Kevin Mitchell is 25 and has only stepped up to Breidas Prescott level tonight.
    He could of faced an opponent who hits harder than a 12 year old girl. It's pretty obvious every opponent he's faced since the Prescott debacle are non-punches. How can he be improved if he's still being protected?
    I can see where your coming from and I know Barrera was old, BUT he hits harder than a 12 year old girl and to me was a risk for Khan. Ok he got an easier night than he might have due to the cut from the clash of heads but it was a risk that I was shocked to see Khan take.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    If that's true why do you feel the need to disrespect him then? I mean why create a thread with the title 'Forget the Amir Khan fight...'. I mean you think it was a soft opponent, ok fair enough, but he blitzed him in truly sensational style and made his first world title defence inside 76 seconds. That's impressive, whether the guy was world class or not. Why can't you just praise Kevin Mitchell's performance without raining on Amir?

    There are so many of you who absolutely hate on him, whenever he fights all we get his hate threads afterwards with people whining about him.

    If you don't hate him, and think he is a good prospect then give him a chance.

    Let me ask you this, how he could he possibly have been moved any faster in his last four fights than he has been?

    He came off a devastating 1 round loss, and so went in with Osin Fagin. A respectable opponent for a comeback fight but a light hitter obviously, certainly no different from Cotto coming back against Michael Jennings, a sensible choice.

    Then he got paired with Barrera, a fight where most laughed when it was announced saying he would get killed. Then he won every single round. The cut was very unfortunate, but not Amir's fault, he still did his job.

    Then he fought for a world title fight, and ANY world title fight is a big fight.

    He wins that and makes his mandatory and wins that.

    So let me ask you, in that space of time, what more could he have done? He had to take a comeback fight, he then defeated a legend, then won a world title, then defended it against the mandatory guy he HAD to defend against.

    What more could he have done?

    Kevin Mitchell is 25 and has only stepped up to Breidas Prescott level tonight.
    He could of faced an opponent who hits harder than a 12 year old girl. It's pretty obvious every opponent he's faced since the Prescott debacle are non-punches. How can he be improved if he's still being protected?
    I can see where your coming from and I know Barrera was old, BUT he hits harder than a 12 year old girl and to me was a risk for Khan. Ok he got an easier night than he might have due to the cut from the clash of heads but it was a risk that I was shocked to see Khan take.
    Of course he was a risk, Barrera was only 12 months removed from going 12 rounds with Manny Pacquaio which in hindsight seems pretty damn impressive yet post Khan all we hear is that Barrera was shot.

    Then he fought for a world title, then he fought his mandatory.

    There has simply been no opportunity for him to fight anyone else.

    He's won his belt now, and got his mandatory out of the way, lets see where he goes from here, but don't rain on the kid when he's fought three great fights back to back.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    He could of faced an opponent who hits harder than a 12 year old girl. It's pretty obvious every opponent he's faced since the Prescott debacle are non-punches. How can he be improved if he's still being protected?
    I can see where your coming from and I know Barrera was old, BUT he hits harder than a 12 year old girl and to me was a risk for Khan. Ok he got an easier night than he might have due to the cut from the clash of heads but it was a risk that I was shocked to see Khan take.
    Of course he was a risk, Barrera was only 12 months removed from going 12 rounds with Manny Pacquaio which in hindsight seems pretty damn impressive yet post Khan all we hear is that Barrera was shot.

    Then he fought for a world title, then he fought his mandatory.

    There has simply been no opportunity for him to fight anyone else.

    He's won his belt now, and got his mandatory out of the way, lets see where he goes from here, but don't rain on the kid when he's fought three great fights back to back.
    I find myself agreeing with Bilbo, he fought the guy he was supposed to , not his fault if he was shit. MAB was supposed to be going to destroy him, didn't happen ( lets not bang on about what cuaed the cut!!) .

    I think a lot of the problem comes from the kid having a big gob and being full of the brown stuff. At what point will people give him credit, don't say when he has fought quality,as said above, he fought the mandatory and took a chance fighting a legend.

    A lot of people still said he would get stopped , then others say he had a guy in there with no punch.For a guy who is chinny he certainly went after his opponent.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    just give credit to this 23 year old kid, amir khan. he was impressive in destroying his mandatory challenger. his straight right, left hook and combinations were very impressive on this fight. tho i saw one instance when he got carried away and somewhat left himself open but his opponent was nowhere a threat at that time.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    He could of faced an opponent who hits harder than a 12 year old girl. It's pretty obvious every opponent he's faced since the Prescott debacle are non-punches. How can he be improved if he's still being protected?
    I can see where your coming from and I know Barrera was old, BUT he hits harder than a 12 year old girl and to me was a risk for Khan. Ok he got an easier night than he might have due to the cut from the clash of heads but it was a risk that I was shocked to see Khan take.
    Of course he was a risk, Barrera was only 12 months removed from going 12 rounds with Manny Pacquaio which in hindsight seems pretty damn impressive yet post Khan all we hear is that Barrera was shot.

    Then he fought for a world title, then he fought his mandatory.

    There has simply been no opportunity for him to fight anyone else.

    He's won his belt now, and got his mandatory out of the way, lets see where he goes from here, but don't rain on the kid when he's fought three great fights back to back.

    Agree totally, nothing wron with the choice of opponents, they're not even claiming he's ready for the very top yet not as if they're making outlandish claims already.

    I think he has a chance against Marquez, stylistically, and I don think Roach waould mention him if he didn't belive it himself. Diaz/Malignaggi are winnable as well IMO and prob the route I'd pick for him as Marquez is the banger of three.

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    Default Re: Forget The Amir Khan Fight.

    I think Marquez would be a step too far for Khan at the minute. I think people are thinking JMM is shot due to what happened against PBF, that is not the case he was just outclassed by the best in the business.

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