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The difference is that these are two guys who are very, very talented. Paul is a top ten p4p fighter and Martinez should be somewhere on the list now too. I favor Martinez and Paul over Pavlik and Sturm at 160 and over Dzinzurik and Angulo at 154 meaning they are probably the two best in two weight classes.
ppl really think that highly of these guys i would've picked a past-it Forrest to beat both of these guys.
On that note, wasn't it classy that Martinez wore the "Vernon Forrest" patch on his shorts?

It is pretty well-documented that Forrest dodged Martinez for a year before he passed away. And Paul Williams would have ran through Forrest at this stage of Forrest's career.
Actually he had MAJOR problems with his hands. They've been a problem since he fought Ike Quartey, hence his massive drop in activity since then. I think Martinez would've beaten him at that point in time, but Forrest wasn't dodging him.

But it was classy of Martinez to wear that. I can't believe Martirosyan thought he had a shot against him