Hatton coming back for one fight only

[Mattyhitman]

Doesnt fill me with a hell of a lot of confidence

Losing all that weight and going through all that pain just for a nights work knowing regardless of what happens you wont be doing this again.

I know ive been saying this a hell of a lot recently but....the guy is a mere 30years old and yet wants to hang it up.

Yes i know his lifestyle isnt suited for him going on much further...but he still could surely continue for a couple of years winning world titles at welter??

As much as i would love to see Ricky carry on a few more years he is way past his best ( Olivera fight at his best ) and the way he is now handling himself out-side the ring also concerns me, he seems to enjoying himself way too much to justify a return on a long term basis. He now reminds me of the way Michael Gomez carried on in the latter stages of his career.

[Bomp]

Think people tend to forget that Marquez isn't even a 135 fighter, just went there to chase Pac. Diaz and old Casa were no where near elite at the time, but were considered great wins because he was fighting bigger men so late in his career.

IMO JMM is the most winnable fight out there for him which would give him actual kudos (though again skewed cos the guy is considerably smaller, yet fits right in with Hattons misunderstanding of the p4p system.). JMM did NOT carry his speed and power up the weight and would prob be munched by Cotto, as wopuld Hatton.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Think people tend to forget that Marquez isn't even a 135 fighter, just went there to chase Pac. Diaz and old Casa were no where near elite at the time, but were considered great wins because he was fighting bigger men so late in his career.

IMO JMM is the most winnable fight out there for him which would give him actual kudos (though again skewed cos the guy is considerably smaller, yet fits right in with Hattons misunderstanding of the p4p system.). JMM did NOT carry his speed and power up the weight and would prob be munched by Cotto, as wopuld Hatton.

Correct.

[HattonTheHammer]

Think people tend to forget that Marquez isn't even a 135 fighter, just went there to chase Pac. Diaz and old Casa were no where near elite at the time, but were considered great wins because he was fighting bigger men so late in his career.

IMO JMM is the most winnable fight out there for him which would give him actual kudos (though again skewed cos the guy is considerably smaller, yet fits right in with Hattons misunderstanding of the p4p system.). JMM did NOT carry his speed and power up the weight and would prob be munched by Cotto, as wopuld Hatton.

Correct.

To be fair to JMM he jumped up 2weight classes to fight the greatest current p4p fighter in his absoloute prime.

Pac did it against a guy who wasnt even in the top 20 and whos best years were far beyond him.

Marquez realised from the 2ndround onwards he was out of his depth physically and chose to try and go the long way around beating floyd instead of going toe to toe with him and getting hurt by a natural 147pounder.

Despite beating diaz in 9 he struggled to physically impose himself that night also because once again unlike manny he was fighting a world class operator who had awesome punch power for a 135pounder and not....david diaz

[UKPH]

Still i can see Hatton could be winnable against Marquez as long he's healthy to go at 140lbs where he's belong.

Marquez is not tested against a 135lbs above , how fool to jump 2 weight classes to fight unbeaten fighter like Floyd even he didnt even try 140lbs and he's hittable in 135 tho he's gutsy wins (Casa and J.Diaz).

Hatton could fight this Marquez for the last time.

Marquez also is in last hurrah he's 37. he's very hittable and some tendency you can see his skills are deteriorated when he's gaining weight or maybe on his age factor also.

[Nameless]

Even if 140 is not his comfort zone, I could easily see Marquez winning it, Hatton resistance seems to have totally faded out and the fact that he has to cut so much weight so fast can just seriously annoy him and play its toll. Even though it might be competitive for a while, Marquez is a damn good counter puncher and HAtton has difficulties with that, once again, no good for his head.

[Bomp]

Even if 140 is not his comfort zone, I could easily see Marquez winning it, Hatton resistance seems to have totally faded out and the fact that he has to cut so much weight so fast can just seriously annoy him and play its toll. Even though it might be competitive for a while, Marquez is a damn good counter puncher and HAtton has difficulties with that, once again, no good for his head.

I'd have Marquez favourite as well, but there isn't another remotely winnable fight out there for him without going ridicilously down the pecking order. His natural size would give him an advantage over JM that he simply wouldn't have against any noteworthy 140er.

HTH: Juan Diaz is an awsome power puncher, are you sure?

[ono]

For those that are saying Marquez has no business at 140, please tell me who would beat him and why you think that?

[JazMerkin]

Think people tend to forget that Marquez isn't even a 135 fighter, just went there to chase Pac. Diaz and old Casa were no where near elite at the time, but were considered great wins because he was fighting bigger men so late in his career.

IMO JMM is the most winnable fight out there for him which would give him actual kudos (though again skewed cos the guy is considerably smaller, yet fits right in with Hattons misunderstanding of the p4p system.). JMM did NOT carry his speed and power up the weight and would prob be munched by Cotto, as wopuld Hatton.

Yes they were. Both guys were considered the best in their weight-class at the time or the best after Marquez. I think that counts as elite. Marquez may have chased Pacquiao, but he suited the weight fine & was pretty ripped at it. 140 is his usual fight night weight & I think at that he has enough speed & power to beat most of the the Top 10 at Light-Welterweight.

[ICB]

Think people tend to forget that Marquez isn't even a 135 fighter, just went there to chase Pac. Diaz and old Casa were no where near elite at the time, but were considered great wins because he was fighting bigger men so late in his career.

IMO JMM is the most winnable fight out there for him which would give him actual kudos (though again skewed cos the guy is considerably smaller, yet fits right in with Hattons misunderstanding of the p4p system.). JMM did NOT carry his speed and power up the weight and would prob be munched by Cotto, as wopuld Hatton.

Yes they were. Both guys were considered the best in their weight-class at the time or the best after Marquez. I think that counts as elite. Marquez may have chased Pacquiao, but he suited the weight fine & was pretty ripped at it. 140 is his usual fight night weight & I think at that he has enough speed & power to beat most of the the Top 10 at Light-Welterweight.

JMM is one of my favorite fighters but Joel Casamayor, was considered to be on the slide by many boxing fans. He got a gift off Santa Cruz, and scored a lucky KO against the one dimensional Michael Katsidis. Plus he hadn't been terribly active after the 3rd Diego Corrales fight.

As for Juan Diaz i agree he was considered one of the top Lightweights, at that time although he had lost some of his aura after being beaten by Nate Campbell. He did comeback with a dominant points win over Michael Katsidis.

[Fenster]

Casamayor was the lineal lightweight champ when Marquez beat him. He may have been past his best but he was still THE man

[Bomp]

Think people tend to forget that Marquez isn't even a 135 fighter, just went there to chase Pac. Diaz and old Casa were no where near elite at the time, but were considered great wins because he was fighting bigger men so late in his career.

IMO JMM is the most winnable fight out there for him which would give him actual kudos (though again skewed cos the guy is considerably smaller, yet fits right in with Hattons misunderstanding of the p4p system.). JMM did NOT carry his speed and power up the weight and would prob be munched by Cotto, as wopuld Hatton.

Yes they were. Both guys were considered the best in their weight-class at the time or the best after Marquez. I think that counts as elite. Marquez may have chased Pacquiao, but he suited the weight fine & was pretty ripped at it. 140 is his usual fight night weight & I think at that he has enough speed & power to beat most of the the Top 10 at Light-Welterweight.

I'm talking more p4p, as Ice said you'd have to consider Cruz and Kats borderline elite after Casa then where does it stop? My point is that JMM is superior to both guys he fought, but they were tougher fights BECAUSE of their size.

[Gandalf]

I have no problems with Hatton coming back, but his condition is just horrible right now and it will be his longest break from boxing yet. I would much rather he had a tune up and continued for another top fight based on that showing.

[magee]

He's a great guy, and i want to see him do well. But rapidly going up and down in weight in between fights is not good for anyone. He doesn't see the punches coming anymore, the reactions are slower. Sadly however, his heart is still as strong as ever, and he could fancy another battle.

[HattonTheHammer]

Doesnt fill me with a hell of a lot of confidence

Losing all that weight and going through all that pain just for a nights work knowing regardless of what happens you wont be doing this again.

I know ive been saying this a hell of a lot recently but....the guy is a mere 30years old and yet wants to hang it up.

Yes i know his lifestyle isnt suited for him going on much further...but he still could surely continue for a couple of years winning world titles at welter??

As much as i would love to see Ricky carry on a few more years he is way past his best ( Olivera fight at his best ) and the way he is now handling himself out-side the ring also concerns me, he seems to enjoying himself way too much to justify a return on a long term basis. He now reminds me of the way Michael Gomez carried on in the latter stages of his career.

i agree when it comes down to his outside life that if his head isnt in it there is absoloutely no point in ruining an outstanding career and becoming a punch bag.

But if ricky was to come back with the heart and determination to leave the sport on top of a division, theres no reason why he cant go on for another 2-3 years and retire with a record of 48,49-2