Pwill v. PBF - Who wins and why?

[JonnyFolds]

Who cares. PBF is retarded.. I mean retired.

PBF would never talk this fight in a million decades. New thread.

[skel1983]

147 Floyd.

Because PW would struggle to get to the weight?

Not really i just think Floyd would be to clever for him at this weight, i could be wrong but id put my money on floyd at 147, i think Williams can be out boxed.

[Zilla]

After this past Saturday I may have to change my opinion. I thought that Williams would more than likely win by decision, now I think Floyd would beat him handily. Williams would be there the whole fight, but Floyd has already fought someone like him and dominated in his victory over Diego Corrales. Williams' flaws were highlighted over and over as Martinez held his hands low and saw Williams' right hand coming a mile off. Mayweather wouldn't get tagged anywhere near as often and would make Paul pay for those awkward misses. If Paul could sustain the body attack it would be Mayweather UD.

[Rantcatrat]

After this past Saturday I may have to change my opinion. I thought that Williams would more than likely win by decision, now I think Floyd would beat him handily. Williams would be there the whole fight, but Floyd has already fought someone like him and dominated in his victory over Diego Corrales. Williams' flaws were highlighted over and over as Martinez held his hands low and saw Williams' right hand coming a mile off. Mayweather wouldn't get tagged anywhere near as often and would make Paul pay for those awkward misses. If Paul could sustain the body attack it would be Mayweather UD.

Paul Williams is a lot bigger and longer than Corrales. Corrales was 5'10 and Williams is 6'2. Corrales had a reach of 70" (Floyd's is 72") and Williams has a reach of 82". Corrales fought most of his career between 130 and 135. Williams has fought his entire career at 147 or above. Paul Williams is an entirely different animal.

Martinez laid a good blue print that Floyd could also execute, but Martinez is bigger (5'11), has longer reach (76") and is stronger than Floyd.

Also, just so you know, Floyd has said in the past that Pwill is too big for him. This fight will never happen. It would be too huge a step up in competition for Floyd. My guess is Floyd fights Pacquiao, makes a cool 50 million, and calls it a day.

[JazMerkin]

I said whilst watching the fight the other day that I now think Mayweather wins. Before I thought he might struggle, but Floyd's got a good inside game & I think if Williams was troubled by Martinez' speed & athleticism on the inside then he would really be in trouble with Floyd's.

Both guy were very good the other night, but I think it showed the Quintana defeat was far from an aberration. It's by no means certain, but I do think we'd see a Mayweather victory. The most glaring thing I noticed is that whilst Williams has great punches against a guy who's not moving, he seems to lack that basic amateur pedigree to really deal with a guy who's good on the move.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Before Willims fought and lost to Quintana I said Floyd would stay low and counter over the top all night long...because Williams jab is a range finder and not meant to punish, so floyd would time it then hit him all night. paul's guard will be low because floyd will be low to the ground.

What Sergio did only makes it more evident, i mean sergio had his hands at his side the whole fight..If paul couldn't really connect flush on him..he'd look stupid against floyd.

[Rantcatrat]

Martinez proved he had a chin - he took some flush shots from Paul. Maybe the fact that he fights at or around 154 helped him handle those shots? Floyd has never taken shots like that. I wonder how he would handle Paul's power. With the length of Paul's arms, he would land at some point.

[JonnyFolds]

Before Willims fought and lost to Quintana I said Floyd would stay low and counter over the top all night long...because Williams jab is a range finder and not meant to punish, so floyd would time it then hit him all night. paul's guard will be low because floyd will be low to the ground.

What Sergio did only makes it more evident, i mean sergio had his hands at his side the whole fight..If paul couldn't really connect flush on him..he'd look stupid against floyd.

I have one BIG problem with this.. PWill has a spear for a double jab. I am not sure you watched the Martinez fight at all. He was snapping his head back fairly consistently in the middle rounds. He was NOT pawing with his jab.

Sergio paid for having his hands by his said plenty, but he rolled with a very large % of those shots.

I think Williams would be in big big trouble with Floyd if he head hunts all night like he did with Martinez, also. You should watch the 2nd Quintana fight again.. he set up the KO punches with great body shots to lower his hands.

[Hunter]

I like PBF in this matchup by decision. P Will is predictable and isnt real fast and counts on breaking his opponents down and wearing them out which I dont think he can do to Floyd.....Floyd will make him pay with counter punches.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Before Willims fought and lost to Quintana I said Floyd would stay low and counter over the top all night long...because Williams jab is a range finder and not meant to punish, so floyd would time it then hit him all night. paul's guard will be low because floyd will be low to the ground.

What Sergio did only makes it more evident, i mean sergio had his hands at his side the whole fight..If paul couldn't really connect flush on him..he'd look stupid against floyd.

I have one BIG problem with this.. PWill has a spear for a double jab. I am not sure you watched the Martinez fight at all. He was snapping his head back fairly consistently in the middle rounds. He was NOT pawing with his jab.

Sergio paid for having his hands by his said plenty, but he rolled with a very large % of those shots.

I think Williams would be in big big trouble with Floyd if he head hunts all night like he did with Martinez, also. You should watch the 2nd Quintana fight again.. he set up the KO punches with great body shots to lower his hands.

I don't need to watch it..i saw it enough to know that the "headsnaps' you refer two were range finders as Serdio fought with his hands at his side most of the fight. Spearing punches will anyman to bring his guard up or move his head more. Sergio roll his chin with a lot of the "Head snappers"

[Pavlik]

PBF. Paul is very hittable the awkwardness of Quintana gave him hell, Floyd is awkward in a pure boxer sort of way.