The most mediocre world champion of the last ten years...

[ElTerribleMorales]

Sorry i meant light welter. Campbell won't ever be effective at 140. He didn't get a gift against Maidana. That's your opinion.

EDIT: Where did people have Campbell on their p4p lists? Top 100?

Please explain to me what Urango, Paulie, Holt, Maidana (infact you think Maidana is clearly better than Kotelnik, yet he lost to him), Ngoudjo have all done that dwarthes anything that Kotelnik has ever achieved.

for fuck sake Campbell was even on Saddos p4p list at the time of the Bradley fight, he was on Espns p4p list, obviously not now

and all of those mentioned have done well against top tier opposition not just against Reese, and a GIFT against Maidana

Well let's break down what you've said.

Juan Urango - Ricky Hatton. Urango won 1 round. Hatton had flu

Juan Urango - Andre Berto. Berto coasted to victory

Kendall Holt - Was on a suicide mission before headbutting Torres. Beaten Mighty Mike, and laboured to wins over Ben Tackie and D-Hop. Hardly awe-inspiring.

Paulie - Got beaten up by Cotto, Got beaten up by Hatton. Nearly got stopped by Ngoudjo, Best win is Lovemore N'Dou.

Maidana - Floored twice but out-battled Victor 'i know i'm a boxer but i shouldn't be taking punches' Ortiz. Lost to Kotelnik the worst fighter ever to lace up gloves. Please stop typing gift in capitals. It doesn't make it true.

The sad thing is, all of the above fighters (Khan and Kotelnik included) are all by definition 'world class'. By that, i mean they are roughly the best Boxing has to offer in the 10 stone category. None of those fighters have done anything that Kotelnik isn't capable of, yet he'd get a tone of credit for beating them.

Kotelnik- a win over Reese and a gift against Maidana

sure as hell seems the weakest of the bunch

and just in case i've been saying that Kotelnik was garbage even before he fought Khan, so stop trying to make Amir a victim

[ono]

for fuck sake Campbell was even on Saddos p4p list at the time of the Bradley fight, he was on Espns p4p list, obviously not now

and all of those mentioned have done well against top tier opposition not just against Reese, and a GIFT against Maidana

Well let's break down what you've said.

Juan Urango - Ricky Hatton. Urango won 1 round. Hatton had flu

Juan Urango - Andre Berto. Berto coasted to victory

Kendall Holt - Was on a suicide mission before headbutting Torres. Beaten Mighty Mike, and laboured to wins over Ben Tackie and D-Hop. Hardly awe-inspiring.

Paulie - Got beaten up by Cotto, Got beaten up by Hatton. Nearly got stopped by Ngoudjo, Best win is Lovemore N'Dou.

Maidana - Floored twice but out-battled Victor 'i know i'm a boxer but i shouldn't be taking punches' Ortiz. Lost to Kotelnik the worst fighter ever to lace up gloves. Please stop typing gift in capitals. It doesn't make it true.

The sad thing is, all of the above fighters (Khan and Kotelnik included) are all by definition 'world class'. By that, i mean they are roughly the best Boxing has to offer in the 10 stone category. None of those fighters have done anything that Kotelnik isn't capable of, yet he'd get a tone of credit for beating them.

Kotelnik- a win over Reese and a gift against Maidana

sure as hell seems the weakest of the bunch

and just in case i've been saying that Kotelnik was garbage even before he fought Khan, so stop trying to make Amir a victim

No he doesn't. 1) - Because he beat Maidana. Out of interest, seen as though you were so eager to point out that ESPN had Nate Campbell listed, let me say, Dan Rafael had Kotelnik winning the Maidana fight.2) - Urango's wins over Ngoudjo and Bailey aren't really any better than Kotelnik's wins over Rees and MaidanaI'm not trying to say Khan is a victim. I'm saying that to me, beating Urango, Maidana, Paulie etc...aint that much of a step up from Kotelnik. In other words, i don't see how you'd give him zero credit for beating Kotelnik but you'd give him credit for beating any of the above 3.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Well let's break down what you've said.

Juan Urango - Ricky Hatton. Urango won 1 round. Hatton had flu

Juan Urango - Andre Berto. Berto coasted to victory

Kendall Holt - Was on a suicide mission before headbutting Torres. Beaten Mighty Mike, and laboured to wins over Ben Tackie and D-Hop. Hardly awe-inspiring.

Paulie - Got beaten up by Cotto, Got beaten up by Hatton. Nearly got stopped by Ngoudjo, Best win is Lovemore N'Dou.

Maidana - Floored twice but out-battled Victor 'i know i'm a boxer but i shouldn't be taking punches' Ortiz. Lost to Kotelnik the worst fighter ever to lace up gloves. Please stop typing gift in capitals. It doesn't make it true.

The sad thing is, all of the above fighters (Khan and Kotelnik included) are all by definition 'world class'. By that, i mean they are roughly the best Boxing has to offer in the 10 stone category. None of those fighters have done anything that Kotelnik isn't capable of, yet he'd get a tone of credit for beating them.

Kotelnik- a win over Reese and a gift against Maidana

sure as hell seems the weakest of the bunch

and just in case i've been saying that Kotelnik was garbage even before he fought Khan, so stop trying to make Amir a victim

No he doesn't. 1) - Because he beat Maidana. Out of interest, seen as though you were so eager to point out that ESPN had Nate Campbell listed, let me say, Dan Rafael had Kotelnik winning the Maidana fight.2) - Urango's wins over Ngoudjo and Bailey aren't really any better than Kotelnik's wins over Rees and MaidanaI'm not trying to say Khan is a victim. I'm saying that to me, beating Urango, Maidana, Paulie etc...aint that much of a step up from Kotelnik. In other words, i don't see how you'd give him zero credit for beating Kotelnik but you'd give him credit for beating any of the above 3.

i'm not even gonna bother trying to explain it anymore cause if you can't see the difference between the quality in Kotelnik and the others mentioned it's pretty clear that you're blind, Kotelnik always has and always will be garbage, not all that great technically and has the punching power of a mouse, it's pathetic, Khan needs to step it up, and if you can't see how much better and able the others are mentioned than you better quit trying cause you must be blind

[ono]

Kotelnik- a win over Reese and a gift against Maidana

sure as hell seems the weakest of the bunch

and just in case i've been saying that Kotelnik was garbage even before he fought Khan, so stop trying to make Amir a victim

No he doesn't. 1) - Because he beat Maidana. Out of interest, seen as though you were so eager to point out that ESPN had Nate Campbell listed, let me say, Dan Rafael had Kotelnik winning the Maidana fight.2) - Urango's wins over Ngoudjo and Bailey aren't really any better than Kotelnik's wins over Rees and MaidanaI'm not trying to say Khan is a victim. I'm saying that to me, beating Urango, Maidana, Paulie etc...aint that much of a step up from Kotelnik. In other words, i don't see how you'd give him zero credit for beating Kotelnik but you'd give him credit for beating any of the above 3.

i'm not even gonna bother trying to explain it anymore cause if you can't see the difference between the quality in Kotelnik and the others mentioned it's pretty clear that you're blind, Kotelnik always has and always will be garbage, not all that great technically and has the punching power of a mouse, it's pathetic, Khan needs to step it up, and if you can't see how much better and able the others are mentioned than you better quit trying cause you must be blind

I can't see it. That's why i'm asking you to show me...

[Master]

Only Gavin Rees, Enzo Macarinelli are worse than Kotelnik.