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    Default Re: Khan interview about the racist comments he made..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Thank you Kel for totally derailing the point about racism and changing it to one about Khan's search for superstardom.
    Well he is claiming that if he was white he would be a superstar in Britain and maybe the world and it's stupid. If he had superstar qualities he would already be one.
    haha that made me laugh, Khan is probably the hottest prospect in the world, he's been a household name since he was 17, he has electrifying handspeed, is now displaying one punch ko power and was already a big enough draw to bring a Hall of Fame legend over to the UK to fight him in his own backyard.

    He is the very definition of someone having superstar qualities.
    He is supposed to be a world champion not a prospect !!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
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    Well he is claiming that if he was white he would be a superstar in Britain and maybe the world and it's stupid. If he had superstar qualities he would already be one.
    haha that made me laugh, Khan is probably the hottest prospect in the world, he's been a household name since he was 17, he has electrifying handspeed, is now displaying one punch ko power and was already a big enough draw to bring a Hall of Fame legend over to the UK to fight him in his own backyard.

    He is the very definition of someone having superstar qualities.
    He is supposed to be a world champion not a prospect !!?
    Champs can still be considered prospects, Andre Berto for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    haha that made me laugh, Khan is probably the hottest prospect in the world, he's been a household name since he was 17, he has electrifying handspeed, is now displaying one punch ko power and was already a big enough draw to bring a Hall of Fame legend over to the UK to fight him in his own backyard.

    He is the very definition of someone having superstar qualities.
    He is supposed to be a world champion not a prospect !!?
    Champs can still be considered prospects, Andre Berto for example.
    Which then sums up their worth as so called WORLD CHAMPIONS ,
    To be champion should mean you are elite , the best , this is not the case with prospects.
    Anyone who think Berto is a prospect , doesn't value him as having any claim to being World Champion, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post

    He is supposed to be a world champion not a prospect !!?
    Champs can still be considered prospects, Andre Berto for example.
    Which then sums up their worth as so called WORLD CHAMPIONS ,
    To be champion should mean you are elite , the best , this is not the case with prospects.
    Anyone who think Berto is a prospect , doesn't value him as having any claim to being World Champion, in my opinion.
    Why should it? Prospects generally are young fighters who have their career ahead of them.

    When Mike Tyson knocked out Trevor Berbick to become the youngest heavyweight champion of all time he was a still a prospect, both before and after.

    It's an age and potential thing. Khan is a prospect because we don't yet know how far he may go in the sport, he may just end up a beltholder, he may end up in the p4p and a multiple weight champ. He's only 22, of course he's a fucking prospect

    Berto won a vacant belt I believe, he's young, he's a world champ, we don't yet know how good he is, he's yet to face an elite fighter, he's still a prospect.

    You can say the same for Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.

    The transition comes when they a) reach a certain age, and thus their physical prime, and b) fufill their potential or prove themselves against the best in their weight class.

    Thus Tim Bradley is no longer a prospect, he's 25 and has defended his belt against legitimate contenders now, he's a champion.

    If Berto beats Mosely he will be a champion, right now he's a prospect.

    It's really not hard to work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
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    Champs can still be considered prospects, Andre Berto for example.
    Which then sums up their worth as so called WORLD CHAMPIONS ,
    To be champion should mean you are elite , the best , this is not the case with prospects.
    Anyone who think Berto is a prospect , doesn't value him as having any claim to being World Champion, in my opinion.
    Why should it? Prospects generally are young fighters who have their career ahead of them.

    When Mike Tyson knocked out Trevor Berbick to become the youngest heavyweight champion of all time he was a still a prospect, both before and after.

    It's an age and potential thing. Khan is a prospect because we don't yet know how far he may go in the sport, he may just end up a beltholder, he may end up in the p4p and a multiple weight champ. He's only 22, of course he's a fucking prospect

    Berto won a vacant belt I believe, he's young, he's a world champ, we don't yet know how good he is, he's yet to face an elite fighter, he's still a prospect.

    You can say the same for Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.

    The transition comes when they a) reach a certain age, and thus their physical prime, and b) fufill their potential or prove themselves against the best in their weight class.

    Thus Tim Bradley is no longer a prospect, he's 25 and has defended his belt against legitimate contenders now, he's a champion.

    If Berto beats Mosely he will be a champion, right now he's a prospect.

    It's really not hard to work out.
    I think it's more murky than you say. By your own definition Andre Ward is most definitely not a prospect. He's 25 years old and has just defeated the universally recognized premier fighter in his division. He is a champion on the same level as Timothy Bradley. The only difference is that Bradley has had more defenses, but the stature of Kessler prior to the Ward fight was far above that of anyone Bradley defeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Champs can still be considered prospects, Andre Berto for example.
    Which then sums up their worth as so called WORLD CHAMPIONS ,
    To be champion should mean you are elite , the best , this is not the case with prospects.
    Anyone who think Berto is a prospect , doesn't value him as having any claim to being World Champion, in my opinion.
    Why should it? Prospects generally are young fighters who have their career ahead of them.

    When Mike Tyson knocked out Trevor Berbick to become the youngest heavyweight champion of all time he was a still a prospect, both before and after.

    It's an age and potential thing. Khan is a prospect because we don't yet know how far he may go in the sport, he may just end up a beltholder, he may end up in the p4p and a multiple weight champ. He's only 22, of course he's a fucking prospect

    Berto won a vacant belt I believe, he's young, he's a world champ, we don't yet know how good he is, he's yet to face an elite fighter, he's still a prospect.

    You can say the same for Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.

    The transition comes when they a) reach a certain age, and thus their physical prime, and b) fufill their potential or prove themselves against the best in their weight class.

    Thus Tim Bradley is no longer a prospect, he's 25 and has defended his belt against legitimate contenders now, he's a champion.

    If Berto beats Mosely he will be a champion, right now he's a prospect.

    It's really not hard to work out.
    so one fight would turn Berto from a prospect in to a legit world class/elite fighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Which then sums up their worth as so called WORLD CHAMPIONS ,
    To be champion should mean you are elite , the best , this is not the case with prospects.
    Anyone who think Berto is a prospect , doesn't value him as having any claim to being World Champion, in my opinion.
    Why should it? Prospects generally are young fighters who have their career ahead of them.

    When Mike Tyson knocked out Trevor Berbick to become the youngest heavyweight champion of all time he was a still a prospect, both before and after.

    It's an age and potential thing. Khan is a prospect because we don't yet know how far he may go in the sport, he may just end up a beltholder, he may end up in the p4p and a multiple weight champ. He's only 22, of course he's a fucking prospect

    Berto won a vacant belt I believe, he's young, he's a world champ, we don't yet know how good he is, he's yet to face an elite fighter, he's still a prospect.

    You can say the same for Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.

    The transition comes when they a) reach a certain age, and thus their physical prime, and b) fufill their potential or prove themselves against the best in their weight class.

    Thus Tim Bradley is no longer a prospect, he's 25 and has defended his belt against legitimate contenders now, he's a champion.

    If Berto beats Mosely he will be a champion, right now he's a prospect.

    It's really not hard to work out.
    so one fight would turn Berto from a prospect in to a legit world class/elite fighter?
    Yeah because he would have proven his potential.

    It's not difficult missy. Ignore the alphabet belts, we all know who the best fighters are in a division.

    A young kid comes up the ranks, he shows potential, he's a prospect. He 'arrives' when he challenges the best guys and beats them. Neither Khan or Berto have done that, but Berto has an opportunity to in his next fight.

    He's currently a belt holder, and has shown himself to be in contention at the top of the division. Now he has a chance to realise his potential against Shane Mosely, who I'm not sure, but may be the linear champ (it might be Floyd I don't know) but certainly until Floyd came back Mosely was the man at 147.

    Berto beats him he's proven himself to be world class and able to compete and win against the best in the world, he's no longer a prospect he's fufilled.


    The online dictionary defines a propect as a candidate likely to succeed.

    In boxing winning an alphabet belt doesn't cut it as success, we want real champs right? So when they succeed at that goal, and become a legit champ, a la Tim Bradley, Paul Williams, Chad Dawson, they move from being prospects to champs, Berto hasn't done that yet, but he has the opportunity to against Shane Mosely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Champs can still be considered prospects, Andre Berto for example.
    Which then sums up their worth as so called WORLD CHAMPIONS ,
    To be champion should mean you are elite , the best , this is not the case with prospects.
    Anyone who think Berto is a prospect , doesn't value him as having any claim to being World Champion, in my opinion.
    Why should it? Prospects generally are young fighters who have their career ahead of them.

    When Mike Tyson knocked out Trevor Berbick to become the youngest heavyweight champion of all time he was a still a prospect, both before and after.

    It's an age and potential thing. Khan is a prospect because we don't yet know how far he may go in the sport, he may just end up a beltholder, he may end up in the p4p and a multiple weight champ. He's only 22, of course he's a fucking prospect

    Berto won a vacant belt I believe, he's young, he's a world champ, we don't yet know how good he is, he's yet to face an elite fighter, he's still a prospect.

    You can say the same for Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.

    The transition comes when they a) reach a certain age, and thus their physical prime, and b) fufill their potential or prove themselves against the best in their weight class.

    Thus Tim Bradley is no longer a prospect, he's 25 and has defended his belt against legitimate contenders now, he's a champion.

    If Berto beats Mosely he will be a champion, right now he's a prospect.

    It's really not hard to work out.
    A prospect to what exactly ? if you are a champion you have reach the top , you are not a prospect , but oviously you can improve . You can also be a prospect at a later age if you have never reach the status of champion.

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    none of this prospect stuff matters. He put his foot in his gob again, something I take much delight in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    none of this prospect stuff matters. He put his foot in his gob again, something I take much delight in.

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