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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Magee had a serious dig. I don't remember seeing a fight where he didn't rock his opponent.

    Most fighters punch resistance wanes with age just down to sheer punishment, no? It would be surprising if that didn't happen to guy hit as much as Hatton.

    Looking at old videos of him he looks much faster than he does now. There's definitely a change.
    Could that not be down to the fact that he's no longer facing gatekeepers and journeyman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Magee had a serious dig. I don't remember seeing a fight where he didn't rock his opponent.

    Most fighters punch resistance wanes with age just down to sheer punishment, no? It would be surprising if that didn't happen to guy hit as much as Hatton.

    Looking at old videos of him he looks much faster than he does now. There's definitely a change.
    Could that not be down to the fact that he's no longer facing gatekeepers and journeyman?
    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    I dunno about his chin but I think he still looked pretty sharp against Mayweather.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinch View Post
    I dunno about his chin but I think he still looked pretty sharp against Mayweather.
    Agreed

    Most have valid points but in general I gotta go with Fenster's analysis on this one, pretty much sums it up for me.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Magee had a serious dig. I don't remember seeing a fight where he didn't rock his opponent.

    Most fighters punch resistance wanes with age just down to sheer punishment, no? It would be surprising if that didn't happen to guy hit as much as Hatton.

    Looking at old videos of him he looks much faster than he does now. There's definitely a change.
    Could that not be down to the fact that he's no longer facing gatekeepers and journeyman?
    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
    Because he is bound to look much faster against a journeyman than he is against Pacquaio, as Hatton will be faster than the journeyman but slower than Pacquiao. It's easy to look fast against a 40 year old gatekeeper.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    Could that not be down to the fact that he's no longer facing gatekeepers and journeyman?
    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
    Because he is bound to look much faster against a journeyman than he is against Pacquaio, as Hatton will be faster than the journeyman but slower than Pacquiao. It's easy to look fast against a 40 year old gatekeeper.
    Yes that's true. But just watch some old fights, he clearly looks faster/sharper punching.

    It's the norm for people to slow and weaken with age, so it is only natural that Hatton's punch resistance is not as solid, even if it was overrated in the past.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
    Because he is bound to look much faster against a journeyman than he is against Pacquaio, as Hatton will be faster than the journeyman but slower than Pacquiao. It's easy to look fast against a 40 year old gatekeeper.
    Yes that's true. But just watch some old fights, he clearly looks faster/sharper punching.

    It's the norm for people to slow and weaken with age, so it is only natural that Hatton's punch resistance is not as solid, even if it was overrated in the past.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    I always remember Billy Graham pleading with him in the latter rounds of the Urango fight to hold on for dear life... which i always found strange because apart from the body shot Ricky owned all the rounds hands down.

    made me wonder if Graham knew something we didn't.

    i have a feeling if Rickly cant hang on and wrestle to wear his opponent down he's in trouble at the high level unless they can't punch.

    and as said above the older he gets the slower he becomes and just can't pin these little fast guys down... i'm starting to think that even Khan would be able to beat him now but i wouldn't give you a good argument on it.

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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    I always remember Billy Graham pleading with him in the latter rounds of the Urango fight to hold on for dear life... which i always found strange because apart from the body shot Ricky owned all the rounds hands down.

    made me wonder if Graham knew something we didn't.

    i have a feeling if Rickly cant hang on and wrestle to wear his opponent down he's in trouble at the high level unless they can't punch.

    and as said above the older he gets the slower he becomes and just can't pin these little fast guys down... i'm starting to think that even Khan would be able to beat him now but i wouldn't give you a good argument on it.
    I think Khan would beat him easily. Too fast. Hatton has never been able to deal with somebody who throws fast combinations imo.
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