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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Magee had a serious dig. I don't remember seeing a fight where he didn't rock his opponent.

    Most fighters punch resistance wanes with age just down to sheer punishment, no? It would be surprising if that didn't happen to guy hit as much as Hatton.

    Looking at old videos of him he looks much faster than he does now. There's definitely a change.
    Could that not be down to the fact that he's no longer facing gatekeepers and journeyman?
    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
    Because he is bound to look much faster against a journeyman than he is against Pacquaio, as Hatton will be faster than the journeyman but slower than Pacquiao. It's easy to look fast against a 40 year old gatekeeper.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    Could that not be down to the fact that he's no longer facing gatekeepers and journeyman?
    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
    Because he is bound to look much faster against a journeyman than he is against Pacquaio, as Hatton will be faster than the journeyman but slower than Pacquiao. It's easy to look fast against a 40 year old gatekeeper.
    Yes that's true. But just watch some old fights, he clearly looks faster/sharper punching.

    It's the norm for people to slow and weaken with age, so it is only natural that Hatton's punch resistance is not as solid, even if it was overrated in the past.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    His speed? How would his opponent affect his speed? I think it's quite obvious he was much faster when younger.
    Because he is bound to look much faster against a journeyman than he is against Pacquaio, as Hatton will be faster than the journeyman but slower than Pacquiao. It's easy to look fast against a 40 year old gatekeeper.
    Yes that's true. But just watch some old fights, he clearly looks faster/sharper punching.

    It's the norm for people to slow and weaken with age, so it is only natural that Hatton's punch resistance is not as solid, even if it was overrated in the past.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    I always remember Billy Graham pleading with him in the latter rounds of the Urango fight to hold on for dear life... which i always found strange because apart from the body shot Ricky owned all the rounds hands down.

    made me wonder if Graham knew something we didn't.

    i have a feeling if Rickly cant hang on and wrestle to wear his opponent down he's in trouble at the high level unless they can't punch.

    and as said above the older he gets the slower he becomes and just can't pin these little fast guys down... i'm starting to think that even Khan would be able to beat him now but i wouldn't give you a good argument on it.

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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    I always remember Billy Graham pleading with him in the latter rounds of the Urango fight to hold on for dear life... which i always found strange because apart from the body shot Ricky owned all the rounds hands down.

    made me wonder if Graham knew something we didn't.

    i have a feeling if Rickly cant hang on and wrestle to wear his opponent down he's in trouble at the high level unless they can't punch.

    and as said above the older he gets the slower he becomes and just can't pin these little fast guys down... i'm starting to think that even Khan would be able to beat him now but i wouldn't give you a good argument on it.
    I think Khan would beat him easily. Too fast. Hatton has never been able to deal with somebody who throws fast combinations imo.
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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    I always remember Billy Graham pleading with him in the latter rounds of the Urango fight to hold on for dear life... which i always found strange because apart from the body shot Ricky owned all the rounds hands down.

    made me wonder if Graham knew something we didn't.

    i have a feeling if Rickly cant hang on and wrestle to wear his opponent down he's in trouble at the high level unless they can't punch.

    and as said above the older he gets the slower he becomes and just can't pin these little fast guys down... i'm starting to think that even Khan would be able to beat him now but i wouldn't give you a good argument on it.
    I think Khan would beat him easily. Too fast. Hatton has never been able to deal with somebody who throws fast combinations imo.
    i would agree if Khan had a chin... but he sadly dosn't

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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Agrre with both ono and Fenster. All fighters punch resistance decline with age, then again I see what ono is saying that his recent fights shouldn't be seen as definitive proof of this regarding Hatton. As someone mentioned Kostya's power was at the end of his reach and HAtton smothered him, though he did take a lot of really solid shots that night and got through them.

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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    I think the beating against Mayweather took a bit out of him he looked shot vs Lazcano but also i think the ballooning up and down in weight between fights caught up with him by the time he fought Pac i think he looked dry and weight drained.

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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    I think the beating against Mayweather took a bit out of him he looked shot vs Lazcano but also i think the ballooning up and down in weight between fights caught up with him by the time he fought Pac i think he looked dry and weight drained.
    Totally agree mate.

    But at the end off the day he only has himself to blame when he fought Manny any1 who goes into a fight against Pac with there hands down is stupid and is going to get Ko'ed.

    Plus after the ko he suffered from Mayweather his confidence was never the same again and the change of trainer didnt help him either!

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    Default Re: The decline of Hatton's chin - Myth or Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    I think the beating against Mayweather took a bit out of him he looked shot vs Lazcano but also i think the ballooning up and down in weight between fights caught up with him by the time he fought Pac i think he looked dry and weight drained.
    The Collazo fight had him taking more punishment IMO. I think the Castillo fight would have been hard in the later stages if he never landed that cracking bodyshot.

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