this is why pacquaio wants specifc test dates

[mad_takamura]

Lots of athletes have passed tests before and later been caught...

Do you have any idea how easy it is to mask or cycle PED if you know the tests and dates for them?

Just because he has passed a test before it doesn't prove a thing.

That being said, Pac is innocent until proven guilty... but I don't see how even a fanboy such as your self cannot cast suspicion on Pac based on how he has dealt with this so far.

That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.

[killersheep]

That's what i'm talking about. But it seems some of you is labeling pac as guilty.
Why cast suspicion when all of the urine test proved pac negative before? Why believe sr.? Does he deserve merit for us to believe him?

The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.

Now we're talkin, how about starting with PBF/Pac?

[mad_takamura]

The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.

He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.

The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.

If urine tests is inconclusive then everyone should have a blood test do you agree? On all mdivisions. Not just pbf or Manny.

Now we're talkin, how about starting with PBF/Pac?

Imo pac will eventually agree in a couple of days. This will surely be a blow to the haters out there and they know who the fuck they are. $40M is something pac won't turn down. This is just dramatizing the hype and as a form of psy war to make the pbf camp believe pac is in to something.

[ross]

Imo pac will eventually agree in a couple of days.

I think either Pacquiaos team come to their senses and agree or Pacquiao is about to become One of the biggest sporting scandals ever and a national embarrassment.

If they agree, that doesnt prove that Pacquiao has been clean, it just means they had no choice, they couldnt run anymore and had to bite the bullet.

People who know more than me, if he has been taking EPO or something else, and he agrees and stays clean for the entire camp, will he come in lighter than usual? Or look smaller, surely he wouldnt have the staying power to deal with Floyds extra strength in the later rounds.

[mad_takamura]

Imo pac will eventually agree in a couple of days.

I think either Pacquiaos team come to their senses and agree or Pacquiao is about to become One of the biggest sporting scandals ever and a national embarrassment.

If they agree, that doesnt prove that Pacquiao has been clean, it just means they had no choice, they couldnt run anymore and had to bite the bullet.

People who know more than me, if he has been taking EPO or something else, and he agrees and stays clean for the entire camp, will he come in lighter than usual? Or look smaller, surely he wouldnt have the staying power to deal with Floyds extra strength in the later rounds.

I'm a pacfan but i have said a lot of times that pac might lose to pbf. It's because i don't see that steroid issue being a factor, but i see that it's going to be the skills as a factor.
As for your last querry, pac would still look the same as his recent fights. I don't believe on that steroid b.s.. It's pure nonsense. If there is doubt i'm sure sooner or later we will know the truth. This is just psywar and dramatizing the hype imo.

[milmascaras1]

mad takamura,

when this fight doesn't happen because the "superstitious" pacquiao won't take an itty bitty blood test, i have a suggest for you. why don't you just shoot yourself because you are the one acting like a complete pussy and imbecille. i mean, you've already threatened to "kill" posters here one by one. that to me is evident of a total idiot in desperation mode. and why are you so opposed to paccheat taking this blood test? are you afraid that pacquiao might come out dirty and will be labeled a complete fraud and cheat? in the mean time, go worship a picture of your God pacquiao and ask him why he's being such a coward and pussy!

[killersheep]

“I am still willing to Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the press [conference]. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.”


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Also I know some of us are friends with Malignaggi on Facebook he said that he has NOT been contacted by Arum.

[kingfrnk]

mad takamura,

when this fight doesn't happen because the "superstitious" pacquiao won't take an itty bitty blood test, i have a suggest for you. why don't you just shoot yourself because you are the one acting like a complete pussy and imbecille. i mean, you've already threatened to "kill" posters here one by one. that to me is evident of a total idiot in desperation mode. and why are you so opposed to paccheat taking this blood test? are you afraid that pacquiao might come out dirty and will be labeled a complete fraud and cheat? in the mean time, go worship a picture of your God pacquiao and ask him why he's being such a coward and pussy!

haha you dont even want to see the pm that 12 yr old nuthugger sent me.

[Zilla]

Don't all changes that we eventually come to accept get greeted this way? I'm pretty sure no fan wanted 12 round championship fights, but its the norm now and better for fighters. I see no reason why this can't be the start of Olympic style testing in a sport that can easily have rampant steroid abusers all throughout. The fact that PBF is all for it and Pac is against it speaks volumes. And I don't buy for a second that a guy is so rattled by a needle that he can't recuperate in 2 days time when his profession involves getting punched in the face. I'm afraid of needles and by the time they take the needle out I'm fine. If it were already the standard would he get to be excused from it? No!

[Chino]

the $10m was a direct reaction immediately to mayweather's demand of olympic type drug testing so you got to see where it's coming from

And Mayweather accepted, no ifs no buts and no silly odd excuses like Pac that only raise doubts on his past accomplishments.

Taking the blood tests and coming out clean showing everybody that the rumors are not true is waaaaaay better than backing off and looking for cheap childish excuses making everybody have doubts about him using PEDs and questioning his accomplishments.

Like someone said before, imagine you were accused of stealing in a store and were asked to empty your pockets. Anybody would empty the pockets to prove them wrong as a slap in the face. It would be foolish to come up with excuses: "I am not showing you my pockets because I am supersticious...I will not show you my pockets because it makes me nervous...No no no, wait a minute, I won't show you my pockets because you just want to control me you bully...I will show you my pockets if you tell me exactly what day and time of the day you will come to check them..." Come on Pac! Prove people wrong and take the random blood tests!

Is Don King, Bob Arum, Pac, and Margarito in the same league now?

[KKisser]

the $10m was a direct reaction immediately to mayweather's demand of olympic type drug testing so you got to see where it's coming from

And Mayweather accepted, no ifs no buts and no silly odd excuses like Pac that only raise doubts on his past accomplishments.

Taking the blood tests and coming out clean showing everybody that the rumors are not true is waaaaaay better than backing off and looking for cheap childish excuses making everybody have doubts about him using PEDs and questioning his accomplishments.

Like someone said before, imagine you were accused of stealing in a store and were asked to empty your pockets. Anybody would empty the pockets to prove them wrong as a slap in the face. It would be foolish to come up with excuses: "I am not showing you my pockets because I am supersticious...I will not show you my pockets because it makes me nervous...No no no, wait a minute, I won't show you my pockets because you just want to control me you bully...I will show you my pockets if you tell me exactly what day and time of the day you will come to check them..." Come on Pac! Prove people wrong and take the random blood tests!

Is Don King, Bob Arum, Pac, and Margarito in the same league now?

chino, so now you're quoting me to make a completely different point. that was a response to your pac making all the demands. lol

[KKisser]

really, this is all B.S. why ask pac to take this test when he's never asked any previous opponent before? that's why some people are questioning floyd that maybe he's afraid of manny. they talk about a level playing field, never mind agreeing to fight jmm at a catchweight and coming in 2lbs over, and now agreeing to face pac at 147lbs when pac isn't even a natural welter. team pac just doesn't want to be bullied into taking a test that never been done in this type of fight before. why are the mayweathers suddenly singling pacquiao out to take the test when it's never been required? are they afraid of something? why don't they just get on with the fight, forget the test, take peds themselves if they can get away with it. that's it, why not take the peds themselves? that will equal the playing field. in all honesty i think mayweather is losing his balls. just fight pacquiao floyd, take the peds yourself and see if you can get away with it. lmao!