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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    First of all Chris,

    If you would really read what's going on there, you would easily see that there is much more Pacquiao enthusiasts than Floyd's adepts, even if we disqualify the legion of 'pactrolls' lurking around.
    Pacman's clan did make incredible and tremendous requests for that fight, ring size, glove politics etc. they also asked for a 10 millions over the pound clause to avoid the Marquez episode. I agree they had to make something about that but let's be fair, 10 millions is definitely exaggerated. SO be it, Floyd accepted. In exchange, Floyd asked for a drug test that would be random and imply blood because it is quite easy to cheat otherwise. This test is good for both of them. For some dubious reasons, Pac refused instigating superstitions, fear of needles, the fear to be weakened etc and rejected a 40 millions payday for that 'fear' (at least, for the moment). Most of us on SAddo do have a judgment and we understand how dubious it is! And this include a notoriously Mayweather's critics and "hater" (i.e: ME).
    However, as much as I might dislike Mayweather, Impartiality orders me to make the part of things and from there, it is not difficult to see that it is very fishy that Pacman rejects so much money for so many dubious arguments. Sure, it doesn't prove he's guilty and we all hope he's not. However, it raises a big and legitimate question mark.
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    there are only two reasons i can think of..envy and discrimination..because he is asian..he is beating all american and european boxers..read all the post about amir khan you'll read the same..

    about pac's contract demands on glove size, is it not 10oz. the standard for welterweight? why would floyd ask for 12oz.?

    the $10m per lbs penalty should either fighter exceeds the limit of 147lbs is just assurance floyd wont do the same as what he did to JMM. what's the fuss? pac will pay the same should he exceeds 147lbs.

    and why USDA when Travis Tygart has close relationship with Golden Boy Promotions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    there are only two reasons i can think of..envy and discrimination..because he is asian..he is beating all american and european boxers..read all the post about amir khan you'll read the same..

    about pac's contract demands on glove size, is it not 10oz. the standard for welterweight? why would floyd ask for 12oz.?

    the $10m per lbs penalty should either fighter exceeds the limit of 147lbs is just assurance floyd wont do the same as what he did to JMM. what's the fuss? pac will pay the same should he exceeds 147lbs.

    and why USDA when Travis Tygart has close relationship with Golden Boy Promotions?
    Haha good one you played the race card. Fyi the USDA is the us dairy association. Furthermore, mayweathers team has stated they don't care who administers the test as long as it's random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    there are only two reasons i can think of..envy and discrimination..because he is asian..he is beating all american and european boxers..read all the post about amir khan you'll read the same..

    about pac's contract demands on glove size, is it not 10oz. the standard for welterweight? why would floyd ask for 12oz.?

    the $10m per lbs penalty should either fighter exceeds the limit of 147lbs is just assurance floyd wont do the same as what he did to JMM. what's the fuss? pac will pay the same should he exceeds 147lbs.

    and why USDA when Travis Tygart has close relationship with Golden Boy Promotions?
    Haha good one you played the race card. Fyi the USDA is the us dairy association. Furthermore, mayweathers team has stated they don't care who administers the test as long as it's random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    there are only two reasons i can think of..envy and discrimination..because he is asian..he is beating all american and european boxers..read all the post about amir khan you'll read the same..

    about pac's contract demands on glove size, is it not 10oz. the standard for welterweight? why would floyd ask for 12oz.?

    the $10m per lbs penalty should either fighter exceeds the limit of 147lbs is just assurance floyd wont do the same as what he did to JMM. what's the fuss? pac will pay the same should he exceeds 147lbs.

    and why USDA when Travis Tygart has close relationship with Golden Boy Promotions?
    That is quite possibly the most retarded thing I have ever read on this site. Congratulations. Someone present this man with a complimentary ham.
    Last edited by CFH; 12-28-2009 at 03:34 PM.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    I do wonder how much of this is just fight publicity on the part of both sides? If it is it sure is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post
    I do wonder how much of this is just fight publicity on the part of both sides? If it is it sure is working.
    I agree, this could well be the biggest boxing publicity stunt since moho ali crowned himself the greatest.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Just for the record, if pacquaio proves to be a cheater then I will crucify him everyday in this forum.

    It seems however that the issue is hyped as Pacquaio already agreed to all kinds of test. I've seen it in a Philippine news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Just for the record, if pacquaio proves to be a cheater then I will crucify him everyday in this forum.

    It seems however that the issue is hyped as Pacquaio already agreed to all kinds of test. I've seen it in a Philippine news.

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    Hi guys im new here. Well technically i was an old user here but i got banned because i got trolled and went on a rant. Well anyway i do agree that there are alot of filipinos out there that are blindly defending pacquiao and discriminating others en route. Believe me i would love nothing more than pac to take the tests pass and smile at mayweather's face and say "See you in the ring Floyd, bring a clean pair of shorts next time" *watches as mayweather pees himself in fear*. But sad to say he doesnt want any of the crap anymore and also i cant blame him. Someone pointing fingers at me for something he hasnt (Yet) have proof would piss me off too. Well here are some points id like to put out and i hope i dont get banned/trolled again for this. I am a filipino and a pac fan but not a pactard.


    In light of bad decisions made by pac and his camp:

    1. Why not take the tests? Whats the big deal? I know mayweather is whining so much but so what? He always was and will be whiny. Get to taking it and shove it in his and his father's faces.

    2. Why sue him? Yes his crazy father started all of this fiasco but so what? Just prove your innocent and prove once again that ol floyd is getting ever more senile by the day.

    3. Arum - Why the f**k arent you doing the right thing and making/appealing to pac to take the damn tests? Or at least tell roach to appeal to pac. I mean they've been training together for like idk 3-4 years? He even calls him master.

    4. Why all the drama? They should just roll with the punches(Accusations and all) and be the bigger and better side and agree and pass through it all.


    In light of mayweathers camp:

    1. If mayweather really wanted clean fights why didnt they test marquez? There might be an off chance his pee had steroids and he was recycling them lol but seriously yes why not test his former opponents and why start with just pac?

    2. They arent as clean as the other side because Schaefer contradicts himself in the sense that he wants a clean fight with mayweather vs pac but when zab judah wanted shane to submit testing he said that NSAC has the adequate testing and mosley need not submit if not required.

    3. Before all this fiasco about testing happened, who was the first to ring the alarm? Oh thats right it was Ol' floyd sr. A man who isnt that known for being that reputable.



    Well those are just some points i just wanted to put out. Please dont be offended, angered or troll me. I am just a humble fan of the sweet science.

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    And oh for those who are pissed off at pactards you should also consider the mayweather nuthuggers and plain pac haters too. They piss off the pac fans and turn them into pactards. I can even name 2 trolls in youtube namely karceno and bloodboxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakkai619 View Post
    Hi guys im new here. Well technically i was an old user here but i got banned because i got trolled and went on a rant. Well anyway i do agree that there are alot of filipinos out there that are blindly defending pacquiao and discriminating others en route. Believe me i would love nothing more than pac to take the tests pass and smile at mayweather's face and say "See you in the ring Floyd, bring a clean pair of shorts next time" *watches as mayweather pees himself in fear*. But sad to say he doesnt want any of the crap anymore and also i cant blame him. Someone pointing fingers at me for something he hasnt (Yet) have proof would piss me off too. Well here are some points id like to put out and i hope i dont get banned/trolled again for this. I am a filipino and a pac fan but not a pactard.


    In light of bad decisions made by pac and his camp:

    1. Why not take the tests? Whats the big deal? I know mayweather is whining so much but so what? He always was and will be whiny. Get to taking it and shove it in his and his father's faces.

    2. Why sue him? Yes his crazy father started all of this fiasco but so what? Just prove your innocent and prove once again that ol floyd is getting ever more senile by the day.

    3. Arum - Why the f**k arent you doing the right thing and making/appealing to pac to take the damn tests? Or at least tell roach to appeal to pac. I mean they've been training together for like idk 3-4 years? He even calls him master.

    4. Why all the drama? They should just roll with the punches(Accusations and all) and be the bigger and better side and agree and pass through it all.


    In light of mayweathers camp:

    1. If mayweather really wanted clean fights why didnt they test marquez? There might be an off chance his pee had steroids and he was recycling them lol but seriously yes why not test his former opponents and why start with just pac?

    2. They arent as clean as the other side because Schaefer contradicts himself in the sense that he wants a clean fight with mayweather vs pac but when zab judah wanted shane to submit testing he said that NSAC has the adequate testing and mosley need not submit if not required.

    3. Before all this fiasco about testing happened, who was the first to ring the alarm? Oh thats right it was Ol' floyd sr. A man who isnt that known for being that reputable.



    Well those are just some points i just wanted to put out. Please dont be offended, angered or troll me. I am just a humble fan of the sweet science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waleed View Post
    there are only two reasons i can think of..envy and discrimination..because he is asian..he is beating all american and european boxers..read all the post about amir khan you'll read the same..

    about pac's contract demands on glove size, is it not 10oz. the standard for welterweight? why would floyd ask for 12oz.?

    the $10m per lbs penalty should either fighter exceeds the limit of 147lbs is just assurance floyd wont do the same as what he did to JMM. what's the fuss? pac will pay the same should he exceeds 147lbs.

    and why USDA when Travis Tygart has close relationship with Golden Boy Promotions?
    I feel like banning you to save yourself from further embarrassment.

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    isn't it amazing how quiet roach has been on all this blood test crap? usually he's the one with the big mouth but suddenly he's developed a case of humbleness. now that his star pupil needs him the most he's suddenly forgot to talk. funny how things work out!

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    Default Re: Why is pac being crucified on saddo boxing?

    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    isn't it amazing how quiet roach has been on all this blood test crap? usually he's the one with the big mouth but suddenly he's developed a case of humbleness. now that his star pupil needs him the most he's suddenly forgot to talk. funny how things work out!
    well what do you want him to say? he's said it before, he doesn't want blood drawn at least 2 days before the fight, unlimited urine tests. does he need to repeat himself?

    how about the mayweathers? what's new with them?

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