Re: Hello fellas, I'm in for the vacation, what's this rumor I hear about 2012.

Originally Posted by
Andre
Thanks bro.
HAha Buddah growing = fat belly.
Haha, same problem here, the middle-age 'magic' is starting to do its work on my belly too so I've got to engage in some good workout everyday to fight that monster even Lord Buddah with all his wisdom can't handle. I've also made a sacred vow to do some extra workout everytime I treat myself to some extra sweets or some fastfoods. So before I decide to eat 'em, I usually ask myself 'am I willing to sweat it out just for this sonavagan?' Most of the time, I usually end up just taking a nap instead... poor pacfan.

Originally Posted by
miles
I've heard about this 2012 business, but I'm not sure I buy into any of that. I do think the 21st century will be the century in which some serious shit will go down though and it might well reach the point when the damage becomes too vast to ever consider fixing again (or even getting the opportunity to fix it). We are seeing it somewhat already in the inability to come to terms with the destruction of the environment. 50 years from now, I think we will see catastrohic changes with land lost and populations being forced to resettle in less than desirable locations. The climate will become unpredictable and farming will become increasingly volatile. With populations expected to keep rising, I struggle to see food supplies keeping up with demand. The oceans are already turning to acid and the eco system there, which is already suffering from overfishing, will get much worse.
Of course, the have nots will suffer and wither first, but the havoc will spread its way upwards. The elite will be okay, and many will see out the century, but it won't be an enviable life. And that's just the environmental issues, let's not even go into the possibilities of what might befall us politically. China, a country with no human rights, territorial demands and which pretty much owns America will be looking to be the player in the coming century. I can't see that resulting in anything positive.
The coming century will be a bleak one and I'm quite thankful that I probably won't see it out. I don't want any part in the mess that we call 'human civilisation'. It isn't very human nor very civilised. We are like ants ready for a cup of hot water to wash us all away.
I pretty much agree with all that you've said here. I wonder if those 'carbon emission reduction' thing can do any good, methinks it's very, very doubtful - all the fuzz for nothing. I think we need something much more drastic...
I've also been wondering if helping the Chinese develop, by the Americans and the Japanese, was a good idea. Could it be the case of a monster in the making, unwittingly? But if it can't be avoided, then I just hope that China will correspondingly begin to be a more gentler as a nation as they develop, as that has usually been the trend among nations. I'm also a bit concerned about the possible decline of the US. Historically, every superpower went on a decline after several decades or centuries, like Spain and the Great Britain. So could it be possible what we're seeing now is the decline of the US and the rise of China? Hope not, at least not just yet. As arrogant as Uncle Sam may be, we're still not ready for the switch, IMO. On the possitive side, it's starting to be a little exciting to watch. Some important historical change seems to be in the offing... I must be hallucinating again.
Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.
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