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[Rantcatrat]

What PED's? Put up or Shut up!

There are dozens of links to the information in previous posts if you read through the forum. Things like HGH, epo are only detectable for a day or two. That's why random testing is necessary.

~articles, etc, etc~

Good post, although, no matter how many facts you post, Pacquiao fans will ignore or choose not to understand the reality of drug testing. Random blood testing will need to become the norm in championship bouts in the near future if boxing wants to become a serious sport anyway.

I, like most true boxing fans, would just like to see both fighters take the tests, so that I know I've paid for a fair fight. If he losses in embarrassing fashion, yes, I'll question his methods in previous bouts, but if he shows even sparks of his recent explosiveness (win or loose), I'll have to assume he's been clean his whole career.

Those Pacquiao fans who say that they "don't care" if he's using PEDs just disgust me. Those kind of statements just show that you don't respect the sport or sportsmanship in general.

Bran, I'm glad you posted on this thread because I've noticed you have a lot of problems with Pacquiao's refusal to take the tests. I'll respond to your points in turn as well.

First, let me say that I too would like to see random drug testing become the norm in fights and I too agree that taking a "I don't care" attitude about performance enhancing drugs is ridiculous.

What you're saying is that after testing clean, if Pacquiao loses in embarrassing fashion to an undefeated, top p4p fighter in the world, you would question his previous bouts but if he just loses, wins a round here and there, you wouldn't? No offense, but that sounds completely arbitrary and subjective and impossible to be accurate at all. How about he just lost to a better fighter? Or that his style his made for Mayweather, a classic slick counter puncher, a better version of Marquez. Recall the difficulty Pacquiao had with Marquez's style and he was a smaller poor man's Mayweather.

Again, I don't know about you, but regardless of all the steroids talk, I thought Pacquiao would be destroyed anyway and lose ten rounds or so out of twelve. Check my previous posts prior to the steroids accusations.

How about the alternative - Pacquiao beats Mayweather in five rounds after testing clean? Couldn't it be that he used steroids to get himself up to 147 faster, but that for the one fight, to make $20M, he didn't? It's not like steroids change his skill set or his style. Maybe we are wrong and his style actually is a difficult style for Mayweather? His one clean test wouldn't prove that he was dirty in the past.

From what you have said, if you'll assume he's clean for his entire career from one clean test, why not just take these random tests, pocket the coin, lose the fight, and call it a day. Your career is vindicated, your legacy intact, you go down as an all-time great, and you are $20M richer. Right?