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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Yes, the head of the US Olympic anti-doping organisation, the man who oversees the testing of over 3000 athletes is biased towards Mayweather. The only evidence of bias you can show is that Manny says they are. If an American athlete refused to let the USADA random test him, said he'd only take scheduled tests at times he agreed to and accused the USADA od being biased he'd be destroyed by the US media overnight. If he continued refusing testing as long as Manny has his career would be over.

    As far as the drug testing goes I'm going to go with the heads of the anti-doping organisations -- you know, the people who know what they're talking about -- over the claims of a Pacneedle fan.
    Seeing that you don't address any of the facts you posted and my factual response, I will defer and only address your response.

    It's been pretty common knowledge that Dela Hoya had been connected with Travis Tygart since the BALCO experience with Mosley. I don't ever recall reading anything about Pacquiao or even his Team referring to Tygart although they may have.

    What does it mean to have Olympic style testing? They do random testing one in-competition (usually immediately following the event) and one out of competition. They specify that the athlete must be available at all times and that he must let them know his whereabouts. They don't do 7 random blood tests in a 8 week period during training. Pacquiao agreed to 3 blood tests and unspecified urine tests. Now you can't look at the Olympic style testing procedures and tell me it is not bias toward Mayweather harassing Pacquiao because he has a phobia about his blood being taken. So stop the BS campain that Pacquiao refused to do testing and just stick with the facts. If you see any claims that are not backed up by fact, then point them out. Oh, so you don't really want the facts! And would rather just stick with innuendo and speculation.

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    Default Re: One More Question

    i would also like to add this article

    TALKING ROIDS, PAC, SHANE, WITH BALCO’S VICTOR CONTE

    let me quote

    "That being said, let’s start with the issues that Victor Conte debunked during his appearance. First of all, testing for Human Growth Hormone, HGH, an effective test really doesn’t exist. Floyd Mayweather’s camp has asked for Olympic style drug testing. What Conte is quick to point out is that the Olympic officials have tested over 1,000 athletes in recent years, and NOT a single HGH test has ever come back “positive.” Said Conte during background, “There were countries where an entire team was on Steroids and HGH and passed Olympic style testing. Even though we’re not done, if I was Floyd I’d toss the call for Olympic testing after hearing this."


    there you go, straight from the horse's mouth


    that being said though, in the end of the article, conte goes on about saying pacquiao should still take the blood test.
    Last edited by erik_corrales; 01-14-2010 at 10:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Yes, the head of the US Olympic anti-doping organisation, the man who oversees the testing of over 3000 athletes is biased towards Mayweather. The only evidence of bias you can show is that Manny says they are. If an American athlete refused to let the USADA random test him, said he'd only take scheduled tests at times he agreed to and accused the USADA od being biased he'd be destroyed by the US media overnight. If he continued refusing testing as long as Manny has his career would be over.

    As far as the drug testing goes I'm going to go with the heads of the anti-doping organisations -- you know, the people who know what they're talking about -- over the claims of a Pacneedle fan.
    Seeing that you don't address any of the facts you posted and my factual response, I will defer and only address your response.

    It's been pretty common knowledge that Dela Hoya had been connected with Travis Tygart since the BALCO experience with Mosley. I don't ever recall reading anything about Pacquiao or even his Team referring to Tygart although they may have.

    What does it mean to have Olympic style testing? They do random testing one in-competition (usually immediately following the event) and one out of competition. They specify that the athlete must be available at all times and that he must let them know his whereabouts. They don't do 7 random blood tests in a 8 week period during training. Pacquiao agreed to 3 blood tests and unspecified urine tests. Now you can't look at the Olympic style testing procedures and tell me it is not bias toward Mayweather harassing Pacquiao because he has a phobia about his blood being taken. So stop the BS campain that Pacquiao refused to do testing and just stick with the facts. If you see any claims that are not backed up by fact, then point them out. Oh, so you don't really want the facts! And would rather just stick with innuendo and speculation.
    I adressed your "facts" by pointing out that you're just dome Pacneedle fan on a messageboard and that the head of Olympic testing in the US has forgotten more about drug testing than you'll ever know.

    As for who's dealing in innuendo, exactly what evidence do you have to suggest any "connection" between GBP and USADA? Other than Manny claiming there is I've never heard anything. If it's common knowledge how come I never heard about it before? Where is the evidence of this "common knowledge" you speak of on the internet?

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