Rafael on Margarito's license

[Violent Demise]

So pretty much what your saying is the 237 power punches Cotto took from Margarito had nothing to do with him losing, right? It was all the wraps. If the wraps weren't loaded Cotto would of shrug them 267 total punches like nothing, right?

Work on your reading comprehension dude. I never said he won because he cheated, all I said was that there is no doubt in my mind that he did indeed cheat.

Loaded gloves or not, Margacheato is going to give Cotto problems any day of the week.

I wasn't aware you were present during the wrapping of hands. You should of notified some one about the loaded wraps. Seriously saying Margarito cheated cuz he beat a fighter he wasn't suppose to beat is pretty moronic. You have no facts to back up your opinion.

[Lance Uppercut]

So pretty much what your saying is the 237 power punches Cotto took from Margarito had nothing to do with him losing, right? It was all the wraps. If the wraps weren't loaded Cotto would of shrug them 267 total punches like nothing, right?

237 "concrete" loaded power punches. WHo knows what would have happened had Margarito not cheated(an unless you are completely nieve, he did cheat) I am sure getting slugged with plaster hands had some effect on Cotto's strategy and ability to absorb his punches.

Margarito committed an unforgivable sin. Look what he did to both Cintron and Cotto's careers prior to him finally getting caught.

This kind of cheating is dangerous and deserves a life time ban.

[Violent Demise]

So pretty much what your saying is the 237 power punches Cotto took from Margarito had nothing to do with him losing, right? It was all the wraps. If the wraps weren't loaded Cotto would of shrug them 267 total punches like nothing, right?

237 "concrete" loaded power punches. WHo knows what would have happened had Margarito not cheated(an unless you are completely nieve, he did cheat) I am sure getting slugged with plaster hands had some effect on Cotto's strategy and ability to absorb his punches.

Margarito committed an unforgivable sin. Look what he did to both Cintron and Cotto's careers prior to him finally getting caught.

This kind of cheating is dangerous and deserves a life time ban.

If the gloves were indeed loaded there is no way possible Cotto would of been capable of taking even "100 concrete" punches. No way. Anybody who's ever boxed before would tell you that.

[p4pking]

So pretty much what your saying is the 237 power punches Cotto took from Margarito had nothing to do with him losing, right? It was all the wraps. If the wraps weren't loaded Cotto would of shrug them 267 total punches like nothing, right?

237 "concrete" loaded power punches. WHo knows what would have happened had Margarito not cheated(an unless you are completely nieve, he did cheat) I am sure getting slugged with plaster hands had some effect on Cotto's strategy and ability to absorb his punches.

Margarito committed an unforgivable sin. Look what he did to both Cintron and Cotto's careers prior to him finally getting caught.

This kind of cheating is dangerous and deserves a life time ban.

If the gloves were indeed loaded there is no way possible Cotto would of been capable of taking even "100 concrete" punches. No way. Anybody who's ever boxed before would tell you that.

It all depends to what extent plaster was being used in his wraps though. I don't think anyone is suggesting it's on par with the Luis Resto fight as far loaded gloves go, that was just grotesque... But take a look at Margarito's punching form, I think anyone who's ever boxed could also tell you that's he's technically quite poor, he is basically an arm puncher with very little natural athletecism. Obviously that's not to say the guy has no power, he's KO'ed decent fighters way back, you have to give him some benefit of the doubt.. But Shane Mosley never actually hurt Cotto, and he landed plenty of power shots on him when they fought. Miguel actually has/had a pretty good chin once he moved up to 147, and massive heart. To say he couldn't have possibly taken that many punches from loaded gloves is kind of a stretch. It's just as easy to argue that Margarito was only able to land so many punches, and hurt Miguel with the type of punches he was landing, because he had highly illegal wraps. Not to mention the fact that it just doesn't make sense he wouldn't cheat in that fight, and then suddenly decide to against Mosley who had lost to Cotto and was considered well past it.

[Violent Demise]

237 "concrete" loaded power punches. WHo knows what would have happened had Margarito not cheated(an unless you are completely nieve, he did cheat) I am sure getting slugged with plaster hands had some effect on Cotto's strategy and ability to absorb his punches.

Margarito committed an unforgivable sin. Look what he did to both Cintron and Cotto's careers prior to him finally getting caught.

This kind of cheating is dangerous and deserves a life time ban.

If the gloves were indeed loaded there is no way possible Cotto would of been capable of taking even "100 concrete" punches. No way. Anybody who's ever boxed before would tell you that.

It all depends to what extent plaster was being used in his wraps though. I don't think anyone is suggesting it's on par with the Luis Resto fight as far loaded gloves go, that was just grotesque... But take a look at Margarito's punching form, I think anyone who's ever boxed could also tell you that's he's technically quite poor, he is basically an arm puncher with very little natural athletecism. Obviously that's not to say the guy has no power, he's KO'ed decent fighters way back, you have to give him some benefit of the doubt.. But Shane Mosley never actually hurt Cotto, and he landed plenty of power shots on him when they fought. Miguel actually has/had a pretty good chin once he moved up to 147, and massive heart. To say he couldn't have possibly taken that many punches from loaded gloves is kind of a stretch. It's just as easy to argue that Margarito was only able to land so many punches, and hurt Miguel with the type of punches he was landing, because he had highly illegal wraps. Not to mention the fact that it just doesn't make sense he wouldn't cheat in that fight, and then suddenly decide to against Mosley who had lost to Cotto and was considered well past it.

All them points (Not saying they don't make sense) are pretty much design to look for a reason to say he's guilty. To much thought into it makes things confusing. Cuz sometimes there's just no answer

Case in point.

I personally think there isn't difference in power between Shane Mosley and Miguel Cotto. I rated it the same despite Mosley coming from a smaller weight class. Why is it that Mosley was able to stop Margarito and Cotto couldn't? Mosley landed 118 power punches on Antonio. While Miguel landed 179. I acknowledge the fact that a lot of Cotto's punches in the second half of the fight were punches landed while on the move. While Mosley pretty much set and fired all night. So there's a difference in impact. But that was in the second half. Nobody is going to tell me Cotto didn't tee off on Margarito with full impact punches that landed flush during the first half of the fight. Cuz he did. Plenty of times. And nothing. Margarito soaked them up and kept coming. Yet he had trouble taking pretty much anything from Mosley? Why? Was Margarito's chin loaded for the Cotto fight but not Mosley's? I mean come on. Like I said there just ain't no answer sometimes

[narsman]

So pretty much what your saying is the 237 power punches Cotto took from Margarito had nothing to do with him losing, right? It was all the wraps. If the wraps weren't loaded Cotto would of shrug them 267 total punches like nothing, right?

Work on your reading comprehension dude. I never said he won because he cheated, all I said was that there is no doubt in my mind that he did indeed cheat.

Loaded gloves or not, Margacheato is going to give Cotto problems any day of the week.

I wasn't aware you were present during the wrapping of hands. You should of notified some one about the loaded wraps. Seriously saying Margarito cheated cuz he beat a fighter he wasn't suppose to beat is pretty moronic. You have no facts to back up your opinion.

Now I understand why everyone picked on Xadu...

[Diane]

Oscar has put his two cents in as well.

Oscar De La Hoya is Disgusted With Margarito's Comeback - Boxing News