Re: What does being undefeated really mean these days?

Originally Posted by
Fenster
If Floyd retired now he'd have one of the best undefeated records in history.
Undefeated records mainly concern prospects/novice champions. It's rare for a fighter to retire unbeaten and be considered a great.
Nobody considers Ottke a great (or unbeaten).. Floyd is a proven great whether he faces Mosley/Pac or not. Even if you try to pick holes in his resume, the man has been top 10 P4P ranked for ten years. How can a fighter be considered one of the very best in the world for such a time without being a great?

He was retired during that time and p4p is subjective, has he fought any dangerous welters in the time he has been there?
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