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    Default Re: The definitive Mayweather/Pac article

    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Hauser excels himself yet again. The man tells it like it is


    Boxing - Thomas Hauser - Mayweather-Pacquiao, PEDs, and Boxing


    "Golden Boy can take the lead on the issue of PEDs in boxing and become a beacon of integrity by requiring its fighters to submit to Olympic-style drug testing before each major fight. And in order to fight on a Golden Boy card (remember; Golden Boy has a lot of dates on HBO), it could require opponents to do the same.

    In fact, Golden Boy could start by testing Shane Mosley to protect Shane from unknowingly using PEDs again. It’s interesting how Shane looked very old when he fought Ricardo Mayorga in 2008 and then improved with age when he fought Antonio Margarito in 2009.

    And speaking of age; let’s have a round of applause for another Golden Boy fighter; Bernard Hopkins. People talk a lot about what great shape Bernard is in and how remarkable it is that a fighter well into his forties can perform the way he does.

    I consider Hopkins a great fighter. Other fighters have moved up in weight and excelled in the manner of Manny Pacquiao. But there is no precedent for a fighter performing as agelessly as Bernard has. I’m aware of no proof whatsoever that Hopkins has used illegal performance enhancing drugs at any time in his career. Of course, to my knowledge, Bernard hasn’t undergone USADA testing.

    WBA heavyweight champion David Haye is another Golden Boy fighter. David was a cruiserweight less than two years ago. His body has filled out nicely since then. Very nicely. Now Haye wants to fight Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko. Vitali tested positive for a banned substance while training for the 1996 Olympics and was removed from the Ukrainian national team. He later acknowledged using steroids, saying that he had done so after aggravating an old leg injury previously sustained during a kick-boxing bout. Wladimir’s body is even more imposing than Vitali’s.

    If Haye fights one of the Klitschko brothers, a Golden Boy-implemented USADA-like testing plan would assure the world that everything is on the up and up.

    Will Golden Boy take the lead in across-the-board PED testing?

    My guess is that there’s a better chance of Tiger Woods becoming Pope."
    Crap article, biased, uneducated (I won't go into that I'll be typing all day) and from an obvious Pac Fan

    This guy should go and work for Fox news.

    If ANY athlete (Hopkins, Haye, klitscho, Pacquiao, blah blah blah) has nothing to hide they won't mind doing a test. In fact in sport that i've been involved in the best athletes jumped at the chance to do a test and prove they were clean....

    I don't care who the fighter is. If they refuse testing (and to my knowledge, Haye, Klitscho, Hopkins etel have not publicly refused testing) then they look suspisious. And if you fail a test then harsh penalties should be served.

    It's clear as day for me with no gray area.
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    Default Re: The definitive Mayweather/Pac article

    Yeah to me it is a weak defense to say that there is no reason to say that Pac is being unfairly singled out and therefore he shouldn't take the test. Hopkins, Haye, those guys haven't refused tests to my knowledge. As an athlete, the onus is on you to be as transparent as possible about testing and if not you run the risk of incriminating yourself. I don't know either way but the doubt is there and that's Pacquiao's fault.

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    Default Re: The definitive Mayweather/Pac article

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Yeah to me it is a weak defense to say that there is no reason to say that Pac is being unfairly singled out and therefore he shouldn't take the test. Hopkins, Haye, those guys haven't refused tests to my knowledge. As an athlete, the onus is on you to be as transparent as possible about testing and if not you run the risk of incriminating yourself. I don't know either way but the doubt is there and that's Pacquiao's fault.

    We definately see this the same way my friend.

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    The drug testing demand of Floyd has been a public relations disaster for both Team Mayweather & Team Pacquiao. They both could have handled it differently. Team Mayweather could have come up with the statement that Floyd wants blood drug testing to be implemented in any of his future fights & would insist that the Nevada Boxing Commission come up with the terms of such blood test (so that it does not appear like he is dictating the terms of such drug test) or Team Pacquiao comes out with a statement that they're agreeable to blood drug testing but would want the Commission to dictate the terms & they would abide by such terms (so that it doesn't appear like Manny is hiding something & it would not allow Floyd to dictate the terms) . This puts the ball in the hands of the Commisssion. Public outcry & Commissions desire to have the megafight in their city would have made them act on those request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    The drug testing demand of Floyd has been a public relations disaster for both Team Mayweather & Team Pacquiao. They both could have handled it differently. Team Mayweather could have come up with the statement that Floyd wants blood drug testing to be implemented in any of his future fights & would insist that the Nevada Boxing Commission come up with the terms of such blood test (so that it does not appear like he is dictating the terms of such drug test) or Team Pacquiao comes out with a statement that they're agreeable to blood drug testing but would want the Commission to dictate the terms & they would abide by such terms (so that it doesn't appear like Manny is hiding something & it would not allow Floyd to dictate the terms) . This puts the ball in the hands of the Commisssion. Public outcry & Commissions desire to have the megafight in their city would have made them act on those request.
    anyone who has common sense must be thinking the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    The drug testing demand of Floyd has been a public relations disaster for both Team Mayweather & Team Pacquiao. They both could have handled it differently. Team Mayweather could have come up with the statement that Floyd wants blood drug testing to be implemented in any of his future fights & would insist that the Nevada Boxing Commission come up with the terms of such blood test (so that it does not appear like he is dictating the terms of such drug test) or Team Pacquiao comes out with a statement that they're agreeable to blood drug testing but would want the Commission to dictate the terms & they would abide by such terms (so that it doesn't appear like Manny is hiding something & it would not allow Floyd to dictate the terms) . This puts the ball in the hands of the Commisssion. Public outcry & Commissions desire to have the megafight in their city would have made them act on those request.
    anyone who has common sense must be thinking the same.
    Your the last person who should be telling people what common sense is, considering how ridiculously biased and irrational you are.

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    Default Re: The definitive Mayweather/Pac article

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner View Post
    The drug testing demand of Floyd has been a public relations disaster for both Team Mayweather & Team Pacquiao. They both could have handled it differently. Team Mayweather could have come up with the statement that Floyd wants blood drug testing to be implemented in any of his future fights & would insist that the Nevada Boxing Commission come up with the terms of such blood test (so that it does not appear like he is dictating the terms of such drug test) or Team Pacquiao comes out with a statement that they're agreeable to blood drug testing but would want the Commission to dictate the terms & they would abide by such terms (so that it doesn't appear like Manny is hiding something & it would not allow Floyd to dictate the terms) . This puts the ball in the hands of the Commisssion. Public outcry & Commissions desire to have the megafight in their city would have made them act on those request.
    anyone who has common sense must be thinking the same.
    Your the last person who should be telling people what common sense is, considering how ridiculously biased and irrational you are.
    You're talking out of your ass here.

    Bias? Irrational?

    I support Pac you hate him just live with it.
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