Does the Winner of Floyd-Mosley become #1 p4p?

[LukeH]

There are too many ways to looks at this... Manny only recieved #1 because Floyd 'retired'. Floyd comes back and beats the man Manny went life and death with... But Marquez was a blow up featherweight. Manny has beaten fighters Floyd beat in more convincing fashion... After Floyd already beat them ( depending on what you would call a more convincing fashion)... Thay have polar opposite styles... and so on and so forth.

For me personally I would put ability and who I think would beat who above pure accomplishments ( not that accomplishments dont count for anything) I think Mayweather is a better boxer than Pac... but in the end of the day this is the nonsense that is pound for pound, for how much it gets talked about it really doesnt mean that much of a deal to most people.

[JonnyFolds]

There are too many ways to looks at this... Manny only recieved #1 because Floyd 'retired'. Floyd comes back and beats the man Manny went life and death with... But Marquez was a blow up featherweight. Manny has beaten fighters Floyd beat in more convincing fashion... After Floyd already beat them ( depending on what you would call a more convincing fashion)... Thay have polar opposite styles... and so on and so forth.

For me personally I would put ability and who I think would beat who above pure accomplishments ( not that accomplishments dont count for anything) I think Mayweather is a better boxer than Pac... but in the end of the day this is the nonsense that is pound for pound, for how much it gets talked about it really doesnt mean that much of a deal to most people.

Pacquiao KO2 Hatton (KTFO of the year + retirement)
Pacquiao TKO9 ODLH (+retirement)

Floyd TKO10 Hatton
He had a Split decision over ODLH

I'm not sure you watched any of these fights. I'd never seen someone get hit as FEW times as Pacquiao in these two fights. Meanwhile Floyd gave up plenty of rounds between these two fighters... I'm just sayin'

[rjj tszyu]

There are too many ways to looks at this... Manny only recieved #1 because Floyd 'retired'. Floyd comes back and beats the man Manny went life and death with... But Marquez was a blow up featherweight. Manny has beaten fighters Floyd beat in more convincing fashion... After Floyd already beat them ( depending on what you would call a more convincing fashion)... Thay have polar opposite styles... and so on and so forth.

For me personally I would put ability and who I think would beat who above pure accomplishments ( not that accomplishments dont count for anything) I think Mayweather is a better boxer than Pac... but in the end of the day this is the nonsense that is pound for pound, for how much it gets talked about it really doesnt mean that much of a deal to most people.

Pacquiao KO2 Hatton (KTFO of the year + retirement)
Pacquiao TKO9 ODLH (+retirement)

Floyd TKO10 Hatton
He had a Split decision over ODLH

I'm not sure you watched any of these fights. I'd never seen someone get hit as FEW times as Pacquiao in these two fights. Meanwhile Floyd gave up plenty of rounds between these two fighters... I'm just sayin'

surely your not trying to say that the ODLH that got beat off Mayweather is the same man that got battered off Pac. For a start Roach knew Oscar couldn't make 147 anymore, I don't think he'd have taken the fight at 154 which is Oscars comfort zone, even after the below par performance against Forbes.

And Hatton was making ridiculous mistakes against Pac that Floyd had to work for 10 rounds to get out of him. Not to mention the long term damage that Hatton suffered in his long drawn out KO defeat to Floyd, that had to have an effect on him.

Finally if you want tot talk about common opponents and who did better against who Pac drew with (which was fair) and then got a dirty robbing gift decision against JMM Floyd completely destroyed him.

[generalbulldog]

There are too many ways to looks at this... Manny only recieved #1 because Floyd 'retired'. Floyd comes back and beats the man Manny went life and death with... But Marquez was a blow up featherweight. Manny has beaten fighters Floyd beat in more convincing fashion... After Floyd already beat them ( depending on what you would call a more convincing fashion)... Thay have polar opposite styles... and so on and so forth.

For me personally I would put ability and who I think would beat who above pure accomplishments ( not that accomplishments dont count for anything) I think Mayweather is a better boxer than Pac... but in the end of the day this is the nonsense that is pound for pound, for how much it gets talked about it really doesnt mean that much of a deal to most people.

Pacquiao KO2 Hatton (KTFO of the year + retirement)
Pacquiao TKO9 ODLH (+retirement)

Floyd TKO10 Hatton
He had a Split decision over ODLH

I'm not sure you watched any of these fights. I'd never seen someone get hit as FEW times as Pacquiao in these two fights. Meanwhile Floyd gave up plenty of rounds between these two fighters... I'm just sayin'

surely your not trying to say that the ODLH that got beat off Mayweather is the same man that got battered off Pac. For a start Roach knew Oscar couldn't make 147 anymore, I don't think he'd have taken the fight at 154 which is Oscars comfort zone, even after the below par performance against Forbes.

And Hatton was making ridiculous mistakes against Pac that Floyd had to work for 10 rounds to get out of him. Not to mention the long term damage that Hatton suffered in his long drawn out KO defeat to Floyd, that had to have an effect on him.

Finally if you want tot talk about common opponents and who did better against who Pac drew with (which was fair) and then got a dirty robbing gift decision against JMM Floyd completely destroyed him.

De La Hoya and Hatton were not the same fighters when Pac faced them that is true, but then everyone brings up that Marquez was the same fighter when Floyd faced him and this is a false statement. You can't have it both ways. And in the JMM fights I had Jmm winning the 2nd fight, but to call a close fight an robbery is absurd. Close fights are not robberies. And even everyone that saw that fight knew it was close. If JMM had won 10 out of 12 rounds and lost that fight, then yeah it's a robbery.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

[miron_lang]

surely your not trying to say that the ODLH that got beat off Mayweather is the same man that got battered off Pac. For a start Roach knew Oscar couldn't make 147 anymore, I don't think he'd have taken the fight at 154 which is Oscars comfort zone, even after the below par performance against Forbes.

Just for your information an guidance. Oscar was going to fight at 147 way before the pac fight was made. Pac just took the vacant slot. 147 was Oscar's idea not Pac or Roach.

Finally if you want tot talk about common opponents and who did better against who Pac drew with (which was fair) and then got a dirty robbing gift decision against JMM Floyd completely destroyed him.

You said that the Oscar that fought Floyd is not the same Oscar that Fought Pac? I think that's what you said and here you're saying that the JMM that fought Floyd is comparable to the one that fought Pac?


Its like playing a game and being the referee at the same time. You make the rules that suits you on the fly.

[JonnyFolds]

surely your not trying to say that the ODLH that got beat off Mayweather is the same man that got battered off Pac. For a start Roach knew Oscar couldn't make 147 anymore, I don't think he'd have taken the fight at 154 which is Oscars comfort zone, even after the below par performance against Forbes.

Oh De La Hoya DID end out making 147 didnt he?? <141> But yeah he was a ghost in that fight.

And Hatton was making ridiculous mistakes against Pac that Floyd had to work for 10 rounds to get out of him. Not to mention the long term damage that Hatton suffered in his long drawn out KO defeat to Floyd, that had to have an effect on him.

Ya speculative, but I see what you are saying. Still the midget almost dispatched of him in 1 round.

Finally if you want to talk about common opponents and who did better against who Pac drew with (which was fair) and then got a dirty robbing gift decision against JMM Floyd completely destroyed him.[/QUOTE]

Touche.. But JMM is a natural ~130 not 144+ the extra weight Fat Floyd carried in the ring.

I dunno. I agree with the guy earlier who said the P4P should just be vacated until these 2 chumps fight on a level playing field.

[LukeH]

There are too many ways to looks at this... Manny only recieved #1 because Floyd 'retired'. Floyd comes back and beats the man Manny went life and death with... But Marquez was a blow up featherweight. Manny has beaten fighters Floyd beat in more convincing fashion... After Floyd already beat them ( depending on what you would call a more convincing fashion)... Thay have polar opposite styles... and so on and so forth.

For me personally I would put ability and who I think would beat who above pure accomplishments ( not that accomplishments dont count for anything) I think Mayweather is a better boxer than Pac... but in the end of the day this is the nonsense that is pound for pound, for how much it gets talked about it really doesnt mean that much of a deal to most people.

Pacquiao KO2 Hatton (KTFO of the year + retirement)
Pacquiao TKO9 ODLH (+retirement)

Floyd TKO10 Hatton
He had a Split decision over ODLH

I'm not sure you watched any of these fights. I'd never seen someone get hit as FEW times as Pacquiao in these two fights. Meanwhile Floyd gave up plenty of rounds between these two fighters... I'm just sayin'

No I wasnt implying that, I was implying that Manny beat them in more convincing fashion.