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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Shane has one more advantage that Hatton, Marquez, and Oscar didn't have:

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    That and if Shane did drop iron jaw Margarito, you can be sure he can drop Floyd without much problems.
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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Not for me Floyd will punish Shane for a big ud win.

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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Shane has one more advantage that Hatton, Marquez, and Oscar didn't have:

    http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/172...Richardson.jpg
    That and if Shane did drop iron jaw Margarito, you can be sure he can drop Floyd without much problems.
    Because Margarito's defense=Mayweather's defense, right?

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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    I think Mosley will have his moments but Floyd wins so clearly that before the fight is over people are talking about how old Mosley is. Mosley nearly lost to Mayorga a while ago, he got outboxed by Cotto. Floyd wins.

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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Some bold statements being made on this thread, no way am I jumping on this wagon. Floyd will dominate Mosley. As some have already said I don't think Floyd will get fair credit because I think he will make it look so easy and people will just say that Mosley was old.
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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Shane has one more advantage that Hatton, Marquez, and Oscar didn't have:

    http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/172...Richardson.jpg
    That and if Shane did drop iron jaw Margarito, you can be sure he can drop Floyd without much problems.
    right because Floyd and Margarito have such a similar defense. it took about 9 rounds of endless unguarded flush punches to Margarito's skull before he was dropped, you're fooling yourself if you think that's gonna be Floyd. if anything the person that will be getting clean all night would be Mosley.
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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Majesty....Shane coming on late in a fight would be a NIGHTMARE for Floyd. Floyd gets his wins by outrunning early and then outgunning late

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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Majesty....Shane coming on late in a fight would be a NIGHTMARE for Floyd. Floyd gets his wins by outrunning early and then outgunning late
    Shane coming on late will give Floyd more chances to counter. have you ever seen Floyd get tired? When's the last time you've seen Floyd get tired in the ring? Just because another fighter hasn't been able to come on late in a fight against Floyd doesn't mean Floyd doesn't have another gear.

    Know why the fighters get tired? Because they go through about 6 or 7 rounds of expending their energy trying to hit Floyd and can't and Floyd has great conditioning and can come on late. Floyd comes on late in a fight too, ask Corrales. After about the 5th or 6th round Floyd begins to pick it up. So if Shane comes on late in a fight he'll just be matched by Floyd, because Floyd comes on late in the fight too. The thing is Shane is going to be the one spending more energy in the early rounds. So it won't be a nightmare for Floyd. Judging how Shane looked against Mayorga I'd be more worried about how much Shane will have left. If he got tagged all night by Mayorga and had issues with those telegraphed punches, then Floyd will be a NIGHTMARE for him. Margarito is slow, Mayorga has a little bit of speed and caught Mosley. So I have a hard time seeing how Mosley is gonna deal with Floyd's speed.

    You brought up a point where you said Floyd has trouble with jabs, he really doesn't, everyone points to the Oscar fight but they neglect that the reason Oscar stopped using the jab was because Floyd started countering it and even hurt him with a straight right. So Floyd has shown he has an answer for the jab.

    However Shane never has. Shane doesn't have an answer for the jab he has never shown one and Mayweather has a good jab too, to the body and to the head. So you should be more worried about Shane not having an answer for the jab as opposed to Mayweather.
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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Floyd doesn't get tired because people are too cautious about coming after him. Now Shane can't get careless but he's going to have to apply pressure and he can do that by winning a couple rounds and then making Floyd come to him OR Shane can work behind a steady jab and try to time Floyd for a big punch.

    Floyd's going to be the hands down favorite for a reason he's skilled as hell but Shane is a tough matchup for him and I think that Floyd MAY try to make a statement to Pacquiao's camp by trying to destroy Shane and perhaps it's that which finally makes Floyd vulnerable to a fighter who is at the end of his career and who wants one more big win on his record. Floyd may be laying low for Shane but never sleep on the guy, he's tough, he's rugged, and he's got quick powerful hands.....this is the most dangerous fight of Floyd's career

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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    I just know him inside out.

    It must be just me

    In his own unique way, he does things very much by 'the book'. Move-by-move... I can, quite literally, call his offensive as it unfolds
    Read my post properly. I never once said 'that PBF is not a unique and exceptional talent'.
    The comment that you know PBF inside out suggest that he is quite ordinary, or you are quite unique. Unique implies one of a kind. How the hell can he be one of a kind when YOU can literally CALL his offensive as it unfolds. Are you then unique also?

    Further, there is something very oxymoronic about a unique fighter doing everything by the book. If he did everything by the book it would be easy to formulate a plan to beat him. Floyd Mayweather adapts his strategy in the ring according to what his opponent brings to the table.
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    Default Re: You heard it here first, Mosley will beat Floyd

    Quote Originally Posted by JJson View Post
    I just know him inside out.

    It must be just me

    In his own unique way, he does things very much by 'the book'. Move-by-move... I can, quite literally, call his offensive as it unfolds
    Read my post properly. I never once said 'that PBF is not a unique and exceptional talent'.
    The comment that you know PBF inside out suggest that he is quite ordinary, or you are quite unique. Unique implies one of a kind. How the hell can he be one of a kind when YOU can literally CALL his offensive as it unfolds. Are you then unique also?

    Further, there is something very oxymoronic about a unique fighter doing everything by the book. If he did everything by the book it would be easy to formulate a plan to beat him. Floyd Mayweather adapts his strategy in the ring according to what his opponent brings to the table.
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    By his own, unique book Jason, by his own, unique book. Is it really that hard to understand?
    And when did I use the term ordinary?!

    Seriously though. I DO find Floyd Mayweather to be somewhat readable in offence. I totally accept that he is a great strategist in the sense that his plan of combat is always the correct in relation to the man in front of him one and that his dedication to his gameplan is absolutely unwavering. He is defensively astonishing and his reflexes are superhuman.

    Have I just dug my self a great big whole..? It would seem so!!

    But the truth is I respect Floyd very much as a fighter.

    One thing I can elaborate on ( ) is the side of Floyd that I find predictable or maybe regimented or readable or even maneuverable (Damn I wish I could find a better word!!) is that these days, about 90% of his offensive arsenal, that thing that keeps him from having to be defensive, he postures quite obviously (to me anyway) and indicatively.

    His transition is so silky that it actually has the potential to work against him. You can see, without a punch being thrown, when he is on the defensive and when he is on attack. Why his opponents stand still like a deer in the headlights when Floyd postures to attack and why they then insist on trying to land when he goes into a shell is beyond me.

    Step in when he postures, step off when he goes into a shell. Keep your shots straight, especially when he is against the ropes. Utilize an in-and-out movement.
    Floyd is happy to put pressure on his opponents and essentially over ride this dynamic whenever an opponent show signs or has the potential of getting it right but that has to be made to work against him.
    Last edited by Jimanuel Boogustus; 02-25-2010 at 09:51 AM.
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