Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date

[Youngblood]

Fact is, when Floyd beats Shane, die hard Pac fans will be the only people on the planet who would still have Floyd p4p #2. Floyd will be the consensus #1 fighter in the world, and we all know Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than Pacquiao-Clottey. When you're the top dog, the odds on favorite to win, AND the bigger draw, you will get, and deserve to get, more money. And people need to stop going back 4 and 5 years looking at their ppv numbers. The bigger draw means who's consistently been drawing more lately. If Freddie Roach and Manny are gonna cry that Mosley is a bigger draw than Clottey that's their own fault, since they had their pick of the litter on who Pacquiao was going to fight before Floyd and could have challenged Shane.

anyone want to elaborate on this?

[Gandalf]

I don't really care about the money issue as that is for homosexuals. I like the actual fights and fighters and promoters can worry about the dirty dollars.

I do care much more about the drugs testing because I believe it is valid and important for boxing. Mayweather is RIGHT to be pushing it and it was good to see him demand it of Mosley too. It shows consistency. People saying "oh well Mayweather is ducking Pac already" (which is what I have read on other forums too) are nuts. Manny has already ducked Floyd because either he doesn't want to fight or else is hiding something. If the fight never happens it is not Mayweathers fault. Mosley is able to fight him and yet under the same conditions Manny couldn't? And all the false excuses that went with it too?

I can't stand Mayweather, but I see things as they are. Mayweather will do much better than Pac in their next fights. Pac has been damaged by the allegations and Clottey is coming off a loss and isn't fan friendly. Mosley though out for a while is a name and coming off a good win. Mayweather will hold all the cards (IF he wins) and in terms of testing he will be right to erase all testing windows.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Fact is, when Floyd beats Shane, die hard Pac fans will be the only people on the planet who would still have Floyd p4p #2. Floyd will be the consensus #1 fighter in the world, and we all know Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than Pacquiao-Clottey. When you're the top dog, the odds on favorite to win, AND the bigger draw, you will get, and deserve to get, more money. And people need to stop going back 4 and 5 years looking at their ppv numbers. The bigger draw means who's consistently been drawing more lately. If Freddie Roach and Manny are gonna cry that Mosley is a bigger draw than Clottey that's their own fault, since they had their pick of the litter on who Pacquiao was going to fight before Floyd and could have challenged Shane.

anyone want to elaborate on this?

Manny Pacquiao could not have chosen Shane bec. by the time his bout with Clottey was finalized, Shane was still scheduled to fight Berto. After the Pac-Mayweather bout did not materialize, Clottey was the next best available fighter at that time .

[match]

Fact is, when Floyd beats Shane, die hard Pac fans will be the only people on the planet who would still have Floyd p4p #2. Floyd will be the consensus #1 fighter in the world, and we all know Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than Pacquiao-Clottey. When you're the top dog, the odds on favorite to win, AND the bigger draw, you will get, and deserve to get, more money. And people need to stop going back 4 and 5 years looking at their ppv numbers. The bigger draw means who's consistently been drawing more lately. If Freddie Roach and Manny are gonna cry that Mosley is a bigger draw than Clottey that's their own fault, since they had their pick of the litter on who Pacquiao was going to fight before Floyd and could have challenged Shane.

anyone want to elaborate on this?

Manny Pacquiao could not have chosen Shane bec. by the time his bout with Clottey was finalized, Shane was still scheduled to fight Berto. After the Pac-Mayweather bout did not materialize, Clottey was the next best available fighter at that time .

Pacquiao and camp chose Clottey less than 2 weeks before Mosley-Berto was to take place. Berto pulled out only days before the fight in wake of the Haiti quake. All Pacquiao had to do was wait for what they thought would be the fight and had Shane won they could have entered into negotiations. They knew damn well whoever would have won Mosley-Berto would be the best available opponent. Floyd didn't even look elsewhere until Pacquiao made it clear he was signing on to fight someone else.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

anyone want to elaborate on this?

Manny Pacquiao could not have chosen Shane bec. by the time his bout with Clottey was finalized, Shane was still scheduled to fight Berto. After the Pac-Mayweather bout did not materialize, Clottey was the next best available fighter at that time .

Pacquiao and camp chose Clottey less than 2 weeks before Mosley-Berto was to take place. Berto pulled out only days before the fight in wake of the Haiti quake. All Pacquiao had to do was wait for what they thought would be the fight and had Shane won they could have entered into negotiations. They knew damn well whoever would have won Mosley-Berto would be the best available opponent. Floyd didn't even look elsewhere until Pacquiao made it clear he was signing on to fight someone else.

If Manny was to wait for the winner of the Mosley-Berto fight, when do you think their bout would be? Manny is running for political office in his country hence would be unable to fight four to six months after the Mosley-Berto bout. That's why he's trying to have a fight in March. He wants to stay as active as possible. So why wasn't Floyd waiting to see who the winner of that bout will be? Why were Paulie Malignagi or Matthew Hatton even considered as possible opponents?

My question to you, who then would have been the best opponent for Manny Pacquiao after the collapse of his megafight with Mayweather?

[Majesty]

Pacquiao only has himself to blame and Bob Arum as well.

Everything was on the table and what did he refuse? Drug tests! DRUG TESTS!!!

And then his promotional team tried to make Mayweather look bad by quickly making a fight a day later lol.

Mayweather waited... and got Mosley. And now he is holding the cards.

Mayweather is in control now whether Arum/Pacquiao like it or not and they only have themselves to blame.

[Gandalf]

Pacquiao only has himself to blame and Bob Arum as well.

Everything was on the table and what did he refuse? Drug tests! DRUG TESTS!!!

And then his promotional team tried to make Mayweather look bad by quickly making a fight a day later lol.

Mayweather waited... and got Mosley. And now he is holding the cards.

Mayweather is in control now whether Arum/Pacquiao like it or not and they only have themselves to blame.

Exactly.

I really hope the PPV figures for Pac/Clottey bomb because Pacquiao needs to be hit where it hurts the most, namely the pocket. He screwed up big time with the Mayweather shenigans and deserves to pay the penalty.

[Majesty]

Pacquiao only has himself to blame and Bob Arum as well.

Everything was on the table and what did he refuse? Drug tests! DRUG TESTS!!!

And then his promotional team tried to make Mayweather look bad by quickly making a fight a day later lol.

Mayweather waited... and got Mosley. And now he is holding the cards.

Mayweather is in control now whether Arum/Pacquiao like it or not and they only have themselves to blame.

Exactly.

I really hope the PPV figures for Pac/Clottey bomb because Pacquiao needs to be hit where it hurts the most, namely the pocket. He screwed up big time with the Mayweather shenigans and deserves to pay the penalty.

Pacquiao needs to stop letting Arum run his career too, he told Arum "make this go away" when the drug test thing came up. And Arum did, he made EVERYTHING go away. Including his reputation.