James Toney signs multi fight deal with the UFC

[Jimmy G-Force]

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

[Hornfinger]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

[Jimmy G-Force]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

[HattonTheHammer]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

so why isnt he a boxer?

[generalbulldog]

Apples and oranges.

1 thing I know for sure is that you're not going to become HW champion just by taking up boxing for a few months have 3 fights and then become HW champ. See Brock Lesnar as an example in MMA. You're not going to beat the Klit brothers or Haye with a few months of training.

Then the pay disparity is huge. Joe Louis was making 600k fighting Billy Conn in the 1940s which is more than what 99% of the stars in the UFC are making right now today.

And notice MMA can attract the washed up boxers like Mercer, Toney, Mayorga, no A-list or B-list boxer is going to fight for a few grand when they can make millions. Just take a look at Amir Khan (b-list boxer) who most people don't know in America and he's going to get a guarantee 1 million fighting Malinaggi on HBO.

My 2 cents.

[HattonTheHammer]

Apples and oranges.

1 thing I know for sure is that you're not going to become HW champion just by taking up boxing for a few months have 3 fights and then become HW champ. See Brock Lesnar as an example in MMA. You're not going to beat the Klit brothers or Haye with a few months of training.

Then the pay disparity is huge. Joe Louis was making 600k fighting Billy Conn in the 1940s which is more than what 99% of the stars in the UFC are making right now today.

And notice MMA can attract the washed up boxers like Mercer, Toney, Mayorga, no A-list or B-list boxer is going to fight for a few grand when they can make millions. Just take a look at Amir Khan (b-list boxer) who most people don't know in America and he's going to get a guarantee 1 million fighting Malinaggi on HBO.

My 2 cents.

my point exactly

some of the guys over here fighting on friday fight night are earning more than the biggest UFC matchup you could possibly imagine. Every single UFC division is made up of 1-2 good fighters with records of 24-3 and then a whole load of 14-12 fighters. In boxing that just doesnt happen because the level of competition is so muh more denser.

You could feasibly walk into UFC and within 1year with the right promoting could be world champion. Again doesnt happen in boxing even if you win olympic gold it`ll be at least 4years before your even fighting for a world title.

Anyone that punches someone who isnt trained to take a punch can look world class whether its UFC or ice hockey. Doesnt mean they have the physical capabilitys of a boxer

if ricky hatton is allowed to take off his gloves and physically throw floyd mayweather around a ring yes it will enhance his chances of beating a boxer. But it doesnt make him the superior athlete it just means he has been trained to perform more combatic actions!!

[Hornfinger]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

I'm sure it's very good but is he Ko'ing a boxer or is he Ko'ing a wrestler with his chin stuck out in the air? there is a big difference.

[Jimmy G-Force]

I'm yet to see any UFC fighter with anywhere close to half decent boxing skills.

It's not hard to look like a good puncher when you're Ko'ing a guy with with even worse skill.

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

I'm sure it's very good but is he Ko'ing a boxer or is he Ko'ing a wrestler with his chin stuck out in the air? there is a big difference.

Technique is technique, and the Bronze medal was in Boxing ? What dont you understand ?

[Hornfinger]

Check out Little Nog, Bronze Medalist in the Pan American Games, he has decent hands. Check out his last KO.

I'm sure it's very good but is he Ko'ing a boxer or is he Ko'ing a wrestler with his chin stuck out in the air? there is a big difference.

Technique is technique, and the Bronze medal was in Boxing ? What dont you understand ?

I could look like a world champ Koing someone who's chin is in the air. what don't you understand? I saw one guy Ko a drunk guy outside the pub the other night. He looked great doing it, let's put him in the ring.

[HattonTheHammer]

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

[Mattyhitman]

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport.What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

Ridiculous my friend

UFC fighters start off with a base fighting style, wrestling, BJJ, Kickboxing, Sambo, Muay Thai etc, very few start off with a boxing background then make the transition to MMA. Simply because they didnt want to do boxing at the very start of their fighting careers. These guys want to be MMA artists because thats what they WANT to be, regardless of the money involved, they do it for the love of the sport.

[Hornfinger]

I do like to watch a bit of UFC but I sometimes think Dana is in an odd world.....

He signs a guy in kimbo who is a glorified youtube streetfighter, and now he is snapping up boxers who are on the brink of bxing retirement.

Would an aging UFC fighter on the brink of retirement go to boxing. I doubt it.

The UFC has grown a lot over the years and I'm interested to see where it will go from here. I don't think ageing boxers and bums that have filmed themselves punching other bums on youtube is the answer.

[TheMacMagician]

I do like to watch a bit of UFC but I sometimes think Dana is in an odd world.....

He signs a guy in kimbo who is a glorified youtube streetfighter, and now he is snapping up boxers who are on the brink of bxing retirement.

Would an aging UFC fighter on the brink of retirement go to boxing. I doubt it.

The UFC has grown a lot over the years and I'm interested to see where it will go from here. I don't think ageing boxers and bums that have filmed themselves punching other bums on youtube is the answer.

Plain and simple exposure I'd say is the goal of White. If an ageing boxer or youtube hit streetfighter brings more audience figures then it makes Dana White money. Imagine how many people are gonna tune in to see how James Toney fairs in UFC. I can't stand the "Two guys grappling on the floor" thing at all. But saying that, I will certainly tune in to find out how Toney gets on, and Mayorga too....... He trying to win boxing fans for sure, and he's gonna do it. Still won't be as good a sport as boxing but might open a few eyes with regards to the supposed quality and entertainment value of UFC if Toney gets slammed.....

[Hornfinger]

I do like to watch a bit of UFC but I sometimes think Dana is in an odd world.....

He signs a guy in kimbo who is a glorified youtube streetfighter, and now he is snapping up boxers who are on the brink of bxing retirement.

Would an aging UFC fighter on the brink of retirement go to boxing. I doubt it.

The UFC has grown a lot over the years and I'm interested to see where it will go from here. I don't think ageing boxers and bums that have filmed themselves punching other bums on youtube is the answer.

Plain and simple exposure I'd say is the goal of White. If an ageing boxer or youtube hit streetfighter brings more audience figures then it makes Dana White money. Imagine how many people are gonna tune in to see how James Toney fairs in UFC. I can't stand the "Two guys grappling on the floor" thing at all. But saying that, I will certainly tune in to find out how Toney gets on, and Mayorga too....... He trying to win boxing fans for sure, and he's gonna do it. Still won't be as good a sport as boxing but might open a few eyes with regards to the supposed quality and entertainment value of UFC if Toney gets slammed.....

Absolutely agree 100%, but what i'm saying is if white isn't careful he's going to wind up looking like part retirement home for colourful boxers and part freak show for anyone with a 'hard' reputation.

[HattonTheHammer]

Lol, your ignorance holds no boundries.

For the record, an MMA fighter is a far more dangerous proposition to face than a boxer. These guys arent boxers, they are martial artists, and now multi-dimentional. Of course they dont have the striking abilities of boxers, but they can punch, they can kick, they wrestle, they can grapple, they can submit. They can basically kick ass in every area possible.

Go and Youtube Cain Valesquez's recent KO of Nogueria at UFC 110 and tell me that 3 punch combination wasnt beautifully tight, crisp and short. And this is from a guy who excels in wrestling and smashing your face in once he gets you to the ground. It was very impressive indeed.

If you swapped the pay of both sports and mixed martial artists were earning millions of dollars dont you think the likes of floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins wouldnt just jump over to that?

And if they did they would no doubt own every single division and once agan the white frat boys who cant take getting beat f*ck out of would simply devise ANOTHER contact sport that they could get their shoe in.

Tell floyd mayweather that randy couture is a better allround athlete. floyd wouldnt give 2 shits he`d merely compare both mens bank balances and that would be the end of the story. UFC fighters arent idiots, they all know they could potentially make millions in the sport of boxing but the difference being our sport is full to the brim with world quality operators wanting those million dollar paydays while UFC is an expanding franchise full of young untapped talent that simply played the numbers game and realised theyd be better keeping to a safe little payday fighting guys with 21-4 rather than compete in a sport with hundreds of world class athletes.

Randy Couture fights guys with records of 18-4, in boxing that record wouldnt even get you on the card as a filler fight let alone a main eventer!!

Ridiculous my friend

UFC fighters start off with a base fighting style, wrestling, BJJ, Kickboxing, Sambo, Muay Thai etc, very few start off with a boxing background then make the transition to MMA. Simply because they didnt want to do boxing at the very start of their fighting careers. These guys want to be MMA artists because thats what they WANT to be, regardless of the money involved, they do it for the love of the sport.

you seriously hand on heart believe that

You honestly think that none of the current UFC world champions have considered going into boxing and making millions just because they love MMA??

bollocks mate, they dont make the transition because they know the level of talent is just far too dense in boxing.

I`ll reiterate my point again, would mayweather, pacquiao, mosley heck even the likes of froch, kessler, hatton entertain the idea of main eventing against someone who has a 20% defeat record??