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    Default Re: Pacquiao talking bollox....

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    I'm speaking Medical Reality, what PED's are you talking about? Manny's being accused of steroids(basically). Any Steroid or Pro-hormone would be caught within a 30 day window of urine tests and a post fight blood test, the urinalysis is a simple $450 test administered to suspect High School athletes today. Are you saying that if he was clean up until a month prior and then started Juicing for the month prior he would have no weight gain, that would cause suspicion?

    Sorry, I don't look at other posts as fact simply because I agree with them. In case you want to know what Urine tests would catch a "cheater" during the month look up ;
    Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (LC/MS/MS)

    Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS)

    Again stop being so played by PBF.....
    Modern peds are far too complicated to be found only via urine, hence why the Olympic system uses as well blood test, this is also valid for the newest and most sophisticated Human growth hormones. Here's what Victor Conte, the mastermind behind the "clear" from Balco laboratories has to say about it: Drug testing in boxing - BBC Radio interview with Victor Conte and Steve Bunce from yesterday... - Bad Left Hook
    Did you listen to the interview? It's goes right to the matter Floyd is demanding blood tests up until 14 days prior while Manny agreed to 24 days prior, its a game by PBF becuase he knows Manny is superstitious. They are not using the testing I listed above which could clearly be given every day for 20 days prior to fight time and catch ANY cheating. The drugs he is referring to that could clear in 1 day are none hormonal (but even so could be tested for), steroids are hormonal and would not even be effective if they cleared in one day. Worst case a hair analysis could be done on either fighter the day of the fight to see if any banned substance was ever taken. Conte suggests random testing prior to fight time and Manny agreed to urinalysis everyday. These are two guys fighting for 10's of millions of dollars and 40k worth of testing for the last 20 days should not be a big deal. It's not like the Olympics where thousands of athletes need to be tested at a potential cost of 100's of millions, so testing is random and not full spectrum.
    I did, and if YOU did it well, he explained that it could be cleared within 5 days and still have effects, hence why the boxing instance should change their system. Today, blood draws are necessary to have the full combo test, every olympians are doing so and for a reason: because it's where the best steroids are, by these days, found and mostly developed. The "needle" thing and superstition are just an empty excuses, Manny can lose blood while getting tattooed but not via a blood draw? are you laughing at me or what? only urine isn't enough to detect everything, all the biggest specialists agree on it, We've copied tons of sources here before on that matter, is that so hard to understand or what?
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    Default Re: Pacquiao talking bollox....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
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    Modern peds are far too complicated to be found only via urine, hence why the Olympic system uses as well blood test, this is also valid for the newest and most sophisticated Human growth hormones. Here's what Victor Conte, the mastermind behind the "clear" from Balco laboratories has to say about it: Drug testing in boxing - BBC Radio interview with Victor Conte and Steve Bunce from yesterday... - Bad Left Hook
    Did you listen to the interview? It's goes right to the matter Floyd is demanding blood tests up until 14 days prior while Manny agreed to 24 days prior, its a game by PBF becuase he knows Manny is superstitious. They are not using the testing I listed above which could clearly be given every day for 20 days prior to fight time and catch ANY cheating. The drugs he is referring to that could clear in 1 day are none hormonal (but even so could be tested for), steroids are hormonal and would not even be effective if they cleared in one day. Worst case a hair analysis could be done on either fighter the day of the fight to see if any banned substance was ever taken. Conte suggests random testing prior to fight time and Manny agreed to urinalysis everyday. These are two guys fighting for 10's of millions of dollars and 40k worth of testing for the last 20 days should not be a big deal. It's not like the Olympics where thousands of athletes need to be tested at a potential cost of 100's of millions, so testing is random and not full spectrum.
    I did, and if YOU did it well, he explained that it could be cleared within 5 days and still have effects, hence why the boxing instance should change their system. Today, blood draws are necessary to have the full combo test, every olympians are doing so and for a reason: because it's where the best steroids are, by these days, found and mostly developed. The "needle" thing and superstition are just an empty excuses, Manny can lose blood while getting tattooed but not via a blood draw? are you laughing at me or what? only urine isn't enough to detect everything, all the biggest specialists agree on it, We've copied tons of sources here before on that matter, is that so hard to understand or what?
    Those PED's he's describing are not Steroids, go to ANY gym find the biggest guys and ask if ANY steroid will have benefits within 5 days...It's ridiculous that you would even suggest that. Olympians are tested for everything randomly from asthma inhalers, cold syrups, blood doping, legal and illegal narcotics, blood comparison testing and even excess caffeine...You really don't know enough about drug testing, again research:

    Liquid Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (LC/MS/MS)
    Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS)

    Which could be performed on Urine, Hair and even Spit with the same accuracy as blood tests for steroids...Again we are talking about blood test up to a month before, Urine, hair,Spit, whatever for the month preceding and a blood test immediately following...This would still be the MOST thorough testing EVER conducting for a boxing event in history!

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