Manny Steward:Haye Just talks alot, wont fight Klit Bros

[Nameless]

Not true. -If- he gets inside, some are likely to land... and that as Wlad is about to clinch... or even after the break from a clinch. Even Eddie pulled this off a few times during their fight.

Totally true. Haye doesn't have the stamina nor will to impose himself on Wlad. And that is why we won't see the fight. The guy will milk the UK audiences as long as he can.

Eh? He does have the stamina. That was what he went to prove in his last fight with Valuev.

How many punches do you need if you can throw the right punches at the right time?

This fight will happen eventually, just wait.

Personally, I don't think that Haye neither the workrate neither the defense or chin to cope with a piston jab for 5 rounds and then getting broken down by all kind of other punches neither. Haye makes sound because he's a brash mouthed folk and because England needs a boxer to look at but that's about the end of it.

[JazMerkin]

Totally true. Haye doesn't have the stamina nor will to impose himself on Wlad. And that is why we won't see the fight. The guy will milk the UK audiences as long as he can.

Eh? He does have the stamina. That was what he went to prove in his last fight with Valuev.

How many punches do you need if you can throw the right punches at the right time?

This fight will happen eventually, just wait.

Personally, I don't think that Haye neither the workrate neither the defense or chin to cope with a piston jab for 5 rounds and then getting broken down by all kind of other punches neither. Haye makes sound because he's a brash mouthed folk and because England needs a boxer to look at but that's about the end of it.

C'mon it's not like Haye hasn't backed up some of his talk. He's a unified and lineal Cruiserweight champion as well as now being a belt-holder at Heavyweight.

As for the idea that England needs a boxer to look at, well to be honest that's just rubbish. Amir Khan is about the most sought-after young fighter in the world, Hatton & Calzaghe may be retired or good as yet plenty of guys at 140 & 168 still call them out, Kevin Mitchell has a world title fight in a football stadium and Carl Froch is all but ignored over here despite taking on great opposition and usually being in good fights. Not to mention the wealth of prospects we have coming through.

Britain is far from desperatly searching for boxing stars. Canada on the other hand...

[ryanman]

Eh? He does have the stamina. That was what he went to prove in his last fight with Valuev.

How many punches do you need if you can throw the right punches at the right time?

This fight will happen eventually, just wait.

Personally, I don't think that Haye neither the workrate neither the defense or chin to cope with a piston jab for 5 rounds and then getting broken down by all kind of other punches neither. Haye makes sound because he's a brash mouthed folk and because England needs a boxer to look at but that's about the end of it.

C'mon it's not like Haye hasn't backed up some of his talk. He's a unified and lineal Cruiserweight champion as well as now being a belt-holder at Heavyweight.

As for the idea that England needs a boxer to look at, well to be honest that's just rubbish. Amir Khan is about the most sought-after young fighter in the world, Hatton & Calzaghe may be retired or good as yet plenty of guys at 140 & 168 still call them out, Kevin Mitchell has a world title fight in a football stadium and Carl Froch is all but ignored over here despite taking on great opposition and usually being in good fights. Not to mention the wealth of prospects we have coming through.

Britain is far from desperatly searching for boxing stars. Canada on the other hand...

I was tempted to go there. There meaning the subject of course, not Canada.

[JazMerkin]

Personally, I don't think that Haye neither the workrate neither the defense or chin to cope with a piston jab for 5 rounds and then getting broken down by all kind of other punches neither. Haye makes sound because he's a brash mouthed folk and because England needs a boxer to look at but that's about the end of it.

C'mon it's not like Haye hasn't backed up some of his talk. He's a unified and lineal Cruiserweight champion as well as now being a belt-holder at Heavyweight.

As for the idea that England needs a boxer to look at, well to be honest that's just rubbish. Amir Khan is about the most sought-after young fighter in the world, Hatton & Calzaghe may be retired or good as yet plenty of guys at 140 & 168 still call them out, Kevin Mitchell has a world title fight in a football stadium and Carl Froch is all but ignored over here despite taking on great opposition and usually being in good fights. Not to mention the wealth of prospects we have coming through.

Britain is far from desperatly searching for boxing stars. Canada on the other hand...

I was tempted to go there. There meaning the subject of course, not Canada.

Obviously, why would anyone go to Canada

[ryanman]

C'mon it's not like Haye hasn't backed up some of his talk. He's a unified and lineal Cruiserweight champion as well as now being a belt-holder at Heavyweight.

As for the idea that England needs a boxer to look at, well to be honest that's just rubbish. Amir Khan is about the most sought-after young fighter in the world, Hatton & Calzaghe may be retired or good as yet plenty of guys at 140 & 168 still call them out, Kevin Mitchell has a world title fight in a football stadium and Carl Froch is all but ignored over here despite taking on great opposition and usually being in good fights. Not to mention the wealth of prospects we have coming through.

Britain is far from desperatly searching for boxing stars. Canada on the other hand...

I was tempted to go there. There meaning the subject of course, not Canada.

Obviously, why would anyone go to Canada

I know, it beggars belief.

[Nameless]

C'mon it's not like Haye hasn't backed up some of his talk. He's a unified and lineal Cruiserweight champion as well as now being a belt-holder at Heavyweight.

As for the idea that England needs a boxer to look at, well to be honest that's just rubbish. Amir Khan is about the most sought-after young fighter in the world, Hatton & Calzaghe may be retired or good as yet plenty of guys at 140 & 168 still call them out, Kevin Mitchell has a world title fight in a football stadium and Carl Froch is all but ignored over here despite taking on great opposition and usually being in good fights. Not to mention the wealth of prospects we have coming through.

Britain is far from desperatly searching for boxing stars. Canada on the other hand...

I was tempted to go there. There meaning the subject of course, not Canada.

Obviously, why would anyone go to Canada

Because we're awesome and quite open minded though we're starting to have ugly social problems slowly but surely

As for Canada looking desperately for a very good boxer, it's absolutely true, I have no shame to admit it, Jean Pascal is not bad at all, Bute is great and has been adopted like son though he's in fact Romanian. Beside that, when was the last great canadian boxer? ... Lewis perhaps? The very good thing though is that we're starting to have tons of young wolves in the junior that could quite become someone and our boxing gyms are absolutely loaded, it's cool for the future and for the scene, really.
As for HAye, he did back up till the cruiserweights, sure, but then? .. He's talking about being the best and making a clean up but he did wuss up 2 times back to back against the Ukrenian towers and got hurt very bad against Barrett... To me he's all about words and nothing about actions at the moment and it's not by beating the slow russian mountain that should have lost at least 2 more times that he,ll convince me of anything at all. Khan is popular but at the same time, he has sooo many peoples hating him, it's difficult to know if he's more loved or hated overall in the UK (from an outsider point of view) which is quite sad because I appreciate the kid,s talent. Haye in revenge seems to have quite the general consensus over there, which is why I say that England needs a new legend and that they are hyping Haye a bit too much at the moment in my opinion.

[TheMacMagician]

Totally true. Haye doesn't have the stamina nor will to impose himself on Wlad. And that is why we won't see the fight. The guy will milk the UK audiences as long as he can.

Eh? He does have the stamina. That was what he went to prove in his last fight with Valuev.

How many punches do you need if you can throw the right punches at the right time?

This fight will happen eventually, just wait.

Personally, I don't think that Haye neither the workrate neither the defense or chin to cope with a piston jab for 5 rounds and then getting broken down by all kind of other punches neither. Haye makes sound because he's a brash mouthed folk and because England needs a boxer to look at but that's about the end of it.

Broken down by all kinds of punches?? Aside from his Jab, I saw barely any variety from Wlad atall. He tried to throw an incredibly limp uppercut early - midway and threw about 4 left hooks, one which briefly landed right at the end to put Chambers down. The punch output and aggression from Wlad is pathetic.

I think if Haye can keep improving at Heavy, get another fight in after Ruiz, and look to get working with someone like Brother Nazim or Roach on a top top game plan, I think he can beat Wlad. If he uses only Booth, then that is not enough to figure out a way past Wlads jab. If Haye starches Ruiz, which is not out of the question, I reckon Roach Or Richardson would defo be interested for a fight against Wlad, things could get very very interesting indeed. A corner akin to Eddie Chambers at the weekend is pathetic and is a plan to fail. They had absolutely no creative critisism what so ever with regards to technical input towards a game plan or adjusted game plan or anything aside from shouting and hoping for motivation....

[Nameless]

Eh? He does have the stamina. That was what he went to prove in his last fight with Valuev.

How many punches do you need if you can throw the right punches at the right time?

This fight will happen eventually, just wait.

Personally, I don't think that Haye neither the workrate neither the defense or chin to cope with a piston jab for 5 rounds and then getting broken down by all kind of other punches neither. Haye makes sound because he's a brash mouthed folk and because England needs a boxer to look at but that's about the end of it.

Broken down by all kinds of punches?? Aside from his Jab, I saw barely any variety from Wlad atall. He tried to throw an incredibly limp uppercut early - midway and threw about 4 left hooks, one which briefly landed right at the end to put Chambers down. The punch output and aggression from Wlad is pathetic.

I think if Haye can keep improving at Heavy, get another fight in after Ruiz, and look to get working with someone like Brother Nazim or Roach on a top top game plan, I think he can beat Wlad. If he uses only Booth, then that is not enough to figure out a way past Wlads jab. If Haye starches Ruiz, which is not out of the question, I reckon Roach Or Richardson would defo be interested for a fight against Wlad, things could get very very interesting indeed. A corner akin to Eddie Chambers at the weekend is pathetic and is a plan to fail. They had absolutely no creative critisism what so ever with regards to technical input towards a game plan or adjusted game plan or anything aside from shouting and hoping for motivation....

His uppercuts are quite neat too, like for the Austin fight for example. I've seen Wlad throwing load of different punches during his career but the thing is: Just with his long range and powerful jab he can to all the damage necessary to then finish his opponents with a powerful straight or a hook. Why would he take some other risks if it does work? I reckon it might not be the best for the show but on a purely effective point of view, it's extremely effective.

[El Kabong]

Broken down by all kinds of punches?? Aside from his Jab, I saw barely any variety from Wlad atall. He tried to throw an incredibly limp uppercut early - midway and threw about 4 left hooks, one which briefly landed right at the end to put Chambers down. The punch output and aggression from Wlad is pathetic.

I've heard that argument too often....Wlad throws different punches WHEN HE HAS TO.

Sure he relies on the 1-2 a bunch but his left hook is the best in the division!!! Sure I assume people will either search for someone who FEATURES a left hook or even cite the poor state of the division as to why Wlad has the best jab, best right cross, and best left hook in the division....but the facts are his left hook and right cross are as effective as they are because his jab is so great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_sWnawpU4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtfMDVGJdxM

When the 1-2 is stopped by someone, maybe Wlad will change it up, but why the hell tamper with success