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It doesn't matter what the excuses are, Floyd is the current PPV king, this fact cannot be disputed. He is the biggest draw on PPV, respect must be given for that.

Manny in his own right is a genuine superstar of the sport and has crossed over, this fact can't be denied as a lot of people on this forum say he's not a superstar and a cherry picking bum that doesn't deserve credit for his boxing career.
It's absolutely ridiculous how people can't give either of these guys the credit they deserve. If you actually grouped their haters opinions together, you have two cherry-picking, fanless, overrated, cowardly c-list fighters rather than the reality which is two almost certain ATG fighters who've beaten much bigger guys in higher divisions while building up resumes that at least bare comparisom with some of the best of the past.

Daxx, in regard to your last point about Oscar doing well against shit opponents, here is his PPV history & let's set 600,000 as the base for good sales.

Top Pay Per View Events in Boxing History

Here's the fights that did over that number.

Pernell Whitaker - 720,000
Felix Trinidad - 1.4m
Fernando Vargas - 935,000
Shane Mosley II - 950,000
Bernard Hopkins - 1m
Ricardo Mayorga - 935,000
Floyd Mayweather - It has 2.15m here, I believe it was eventually 2.4m
Manny Pacquiao - If I remember right, this was 1.2m

So which opponent was 'shit' & which of those fights DIDN'T have circumstances around it that helped it sell better.
You also leave off a lot of other PPV fights that you have to think about the day in which they were...PPV was not always as big as it was today..

Heavyweight fights were the big earners....In 1995,96,97 etc...Matter of fact who else other then DLH under hwt was headlining PPV fights on a constant basis


To sell over 500,600 buys in 97 for a fight with a washed up Camacho..is equal to almost a million today

400,000 Buys for a fight with Javier Castillejo ...In todays PPV terms that is almost double.. What circumstances were around that?


DLH is the most successfully marketed fighter of all time that includes Tyson and anyone else for that matter....

As for someone saying before how the Pacquiao Marquez ppv did shit...It was the highest grossing PPV under 147lb weight class....
Pacquiao Marquez set PPV record for any weight class below WWQ
Pacquiao-Marquez Sets PPV Record
Today Floyd is the cash cow, Oscar to his credit did incredible numbers no doubt, but Floyd is the PPV king right now, as of today, although Pac isn't that far behind and is a megastar in his own right.

Right now let's just appreciate these two, because they are making boxing more popular with casual fans in the American market and making it very popular everywhere else and are carrying the sport.

5 years from now when they are no longer on top and in retirement, we're going to reminisce about when boxing forums were split and talked about these 2 constantly. Because right now I really don't see some superstar on the horizon that can crossover like they do.