Abraham - Justified DQ?

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Forum stupidity has risen to unacceptable levels. Good on you for leading the charge Game, always knew you had it in you .

Yeah, it is the usual suspects talking complete shit. It's amazing the number of keyboard warriors calling Dirrell a pussy, when they wouldn't last a minute in the ring with his grandad, let alone him.

Oh & if Dirrell was acting, he must Robert DeNiro's son because he's phenomenal. I mean seriously anyone who thinks he was acting is just out to lunch as far as I'm concerned or they're still too caught up in trying to find a victory for their man.

I've yet to see any of the idiots give one single logical reason why Dirrell would feign a seizure and delusion to get out of a fight he was clearly winning. All of a sudden all these morons are experts on head injuries too .

Simple, he'd been put on his arse the round before (10th) and was lucky to get away with it. Abraham was pressuring him. It was actually a punch that caused the slip. Abraham had a brilliant KO win in the 12 in his last fight, and Abraham gave Dirrell the option to take the easy way out.

I think he's a shithouse for doing so. Don't get me wrong, it would have been a tempting offer and once he started rolling around he had to continue going on with it. Split second decision. If you watch you can actually see the second where he thinks about it.

All this talk about calling people Keyboard Warriors is irrelevant. None of us are walking round claiming to be the best fighter in the world.

[ninjaspy3]

Yeah, it is the usual suspects talking complete shit. It's amazing the number of keyboard warriors calling Dirrell a pussy, when they wouldn't last a minute in the ring with his grandad, let alone him.

Oh & if Dirrell was acting, he must Robert DeNiro's son because he's phenomenal. I mean seriously anyone who thinks he was acting is just out to lunch as far as I'm concerned or they're still too caught up in trying to find a victory for their man.

I've yet to see any of the idiots give one single logical reason why Dirrell would feign a seizure and delusion to get out of a fight he was clearly winning. All of a sudden all these morons are experts on head injuries too .

Simple, he'd been put on his arse the round before (10th) and was lucky to get away with it. Abraham was pressuring him. It was actually a punch that caused the slip. Abraham had a brilliant KO win in the 12 in his last fight, and Abraham gave Dirrell the option to take the easy way out.

I think he's a shithouse for doing so. Don't get me wrong, it would have been a tempting offer and once he started rolling around he had to continue going on with it. Split second decision. If you watch you can actually see the second where he thinks about it.

All this talk about calling people Keyboard Warriors is irrelevant. None of us are walking round claiming to be the best fighter in the world.

1 - Dirrell got up from that knock down with very little trouble at all

2 - It was not a punch that caused the slip. He dodged that punch and slipped. Look at the slow motion replay.

3 - No one has to claim to be the best fighter in the world. Instead what you are doing is claiming that you know more about what a man can do after taking a clean hit, and no one doing all the talking has any personal experience, or expertiese to go on.

[ono]

I've yet to see any of the idiots give one single logical reason why Dirrell would feign a seizure and delusion to get out of a fight he was clearly winning. All of a sudden all these morons are experts on head injuries too .

Simple, he'd been put on his arse the round before (10th) and was lucky to get away with it. Abraham was pressuring him. It was actually a punch that caused the slip. Abraham had a brilliant KO win in the 12 in his last fight, and Abraham gave Dirrell the option to take the easy way out.

I think he's a shithouse for doing so. Don't get me wrong, it would have been a tempting offer and once he started rolling around he had to continue going on with it. Split second decision. If you watch you can actually see the second where he thinks about it.

All this talk about calling people Keyboard Warriors is irrelevant. None of us are walking round claiming to be the best fighter in the world.

1 - Dirrell got up from that knock down with very little trouble at all

2 - It was not a punch that caused the slip. He dodged that punch and slipped. Look at the slow motion replay.

3 - No one has to claim to be the best fighter in the world. Instead what you are doing is claiming that you know more about what a man can do after taking a clean hit, and no one doing all the talking has any personal experience, or expertiese to go on.

1 only emphasises my point. The shot that put him on his arse in the 10th was harder than the shot that supposedly almost killed him. 2, again is what i was trying to say. The pressure Dirrell was under caused him to slip - i should have been clearer

3 - You don't have to be an expert.

He was hit

He looked up at Abraham

He paused

He touched his face

He grimaced like he was in pain

He then theatrically flopped

He proceeded to roll in and out of the ring

He began shaking his leg

He came round a minute or so later

Wouldn't let the Dr look into his eyes

He claimed he'd been ko'd whilst he was down which is odd that he had perfect recollection of what happened considering he was convulsing. In fact, that's very odd. Dirrell appeared to be laying it all on a little too thick. He was also quite vocal which is odd behaviour to show after being knocked out cold.

He then proceeded to become very annoyed by somebody claiming he faked injury, which again, given he had 'suspected' brain bleeding is odd.

The broadcast team managed to grab an interview with the Dr who was supposed to be looking after Andre, which was strange

All tests came back negative. No concussion, no nothing. Which again was odd considering he was out cold convulsing...supposedly.

So no, i don't think i have to be neurologist to make my mind up about what happened.

[ninjaspy3]

Simple, he'd been put on his arse the round before (10th) and was lucky to get away with it. Abraham was pressuring him. It was actually a punch that caused the slip. Abraham had a brilliant KO win in the 12 in his last fight, and Abraham gave Dirrell the option to take the easy way out.

I think he's a shithouse for doing so. Don't get me wrong, it would have been a tempting offer and once he started rolling around he had to continue going on with it. Split second decision. If you watch you can actually see the second where he thinks about it.

All this talk about calling people Keyboard Warriors is irrelevant. None of us are walking round claiming to be the best fighter in the world.

1 - Dirrell got up from that knock down with very little trouble at all

2 - It was not a punch that caused the slip. He dodged that punch and slipped. Look at the slow motion replay.

3 - No one has to claim to be the best fighter in the world. Instead what you are doing is claiming that you know more about what a man can do after taking a clean hit, and no one doing all the talking has any personal experience, or expertiese to go on.

1 only emphasises my point. The shot that put him on his arse in the 10th was harder than the shot that supposedly almost killed him. 2, again is what i was trying to say. The pressure Dirrell was under caused him to slip - i should have been clearer

3 - You don't have to be an expert.

He was hit

He looked up at Abraham

He paused

He touched his face

He grimaced like he was in pain

He then theatrically flopped

He proceeded to roll in and out of the ring

He began shaking his leg

He came round a minute or so later

Wouldn't let the Dr look into his eyes

He claimed he'd been ko'd whilst he was down which is odd that he had perfect recollection of what happened considering he was convulsing. In fact, that's very odd. Dirrell appeared to be laying it all on a little too thick. He was also quite vocal which is odd behaviour to show after being knocked out cold.

He then proceeded to become very annoyed by somebody claiming he faked injury, which again, given he had 'suspected' brain bleeding is odd.

The broadcast team managed to grab an interview with the Dr who was supposed to be looking after Andre, which was strange

All tests came back negative. No concussion, no nothing. Which again was odd considering he was out cold convulsing...supposedly.

So no, i don't think i have to be neurologist to make my mind up about what happened.

Very well. Let's say (hypothetically) that you are right, and he acted.
What would you recommend he -should- have done?

May I take a guess in that your answer would be "Get up and continue to fight?"

If that is the case, you and I both know that there is only one likely ending for such a scenario, and that is, Abraham finally getting through with a punch and landing a KO.

Such a scenario -could have- played out even without the hit which resulted in the DQ -however- that hit would have pretty much ended any further useful participation in the fight by Dirrell.

See what Im saying? Especially because of that hit, the end result of the fight would have tipped heavily into Abraham's favor. And that is just wrong.

The DQ was a waaay more acceptable option than getting Dirrell to continue the fight only to be 70% and get KOd.

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1 - Dirrell got up from that knock down with very little trouble at all

2 - It was not a punch that caused the slip. He dodged that punch and slipped. Look at the slow motion replay.

3 - No one has to claim to be the best fighter in the world. Instead what you are doing is claiming that you know more about what a man can do after taking a clean hit, and no one doing all the talking has any personal experience, or expertiese to go on.

1 only emphasises my point. The shot that put him on his arse in the 10th was harder than the shot that supposedly almost killed him. 2, again is what i was trying to say. The pressure Dirrell was under caused him to slip - i should have been clearer

3 - You don't have to be an expert.

He was hit

He looked up at Abraham

He paused

He touched his face

He grimaced like he was in pain

He then theatrically flopped

He proceeded to roll in and out of the ring

He began shaking his leg

He came round a minute or so later

Wouldn't let the Dr look into his eyes

He claimed he'd been ko'd whilst he was down which is odd that he had perfect recollection of what happened considering he was convulsing. In fact, that's very odd. Dirrell appeared to be laying it all on a little too thick. He was also quite vocal which is odd behaviour to show after being knocked out cold.

He then proceeded to become very annoyed by somebody claiming he faked injury, which again, given he had 'suspected' brain bleeding is odd.

The broadcast team managed to grab an interview with the Dr who was supposed to be looking after Andre, which was strange

All tests came back negative. No concussion, no nothing. Which again was odd considering he was out cold convulsing...supposedly.

So no, i don't think i have to be neurologist to make my mind up about what happened.

Very well. Let's say (hypothetically) that you are right, and he acted.
What would you recommend he -should- have done?

May I take a guess in that your answer would be "Get up and continue to fight?"

If that is the case, you and I both know that there is only one likely ending for such a scenario, and that is, Abraham finally getting through with a punch and landing a KO.

Such a scenario -could have- played out even without the hit which resulted in the DQ -however- that hit would have pretty much ended any further useful participation in the fight by Dirrell.

See what Im saying? Especially because of that hit, the end result of the fight would have tipped heavily into Abraham's favor. And that is just wrong.

The DQ was a waaay more acceptable option than getting Dirrell to continue the fight only to be 70% and get KOd.

Well that's the funny thing. It was worthy of a DQ and i have no problem with that. Just Dirrell's response took the shine off what was a very, very good performance, and imo i believe he did it not just because Abraham was coming on strong, but also because the opportunity presented itself and in reality he only had a split second to make the decision and after that he had to go along with it. It was just a really unsatisfying way to what was an exciting fight, especially going into the 12th with Abraham needing a knockout.