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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Soto got DQed for grazing the back of Lorenzo's head and that was much less blatant, Lorenzo also did not go down after.

    Bottom line here is that it's the ref's call, it's clearly within his rights to do so based on the circumstance. If Cole deems a fighter is unable to continue from an illegal blow, even if a fighter IS able to continue a ref is in his rights to call a halt to a bout on an illegal shot like that.


    Be that as it may, it is also the responsibility of the various athletic commissions to review fights for consistency.

    One sport, one rule book.


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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hfahrenheit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Soto got DQed for grazing the back of Lorenzo's head and that was much less blatant, Lorenzo also did not go down after.

    Bottom line here is that it's the ref's call, it's clearly within his rights to do so based on the circumstance. If Cole deems a fighter is unable to continue from an illegal blow, even if a fighter IS able to continue a ref is in his rights to call a halt to a bout on an illegal shot like that.


    Be that as it may, it is also the responsibility of the various athletic commissions to review fights for consistency.

    One sport, one rule book.


    The rules state it's the ref's discretion.

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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hfahrenheit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Soto got DQed for grazing the back of Lorenzo's head and that was much less blatant, Lorenzo also did not go down after.

    Bottom line here is that it's the ref's call, it's clearly within his rights to do so based on the circumstance. If Cole deems a fighter is unable to continue from an illegal blow, even if a fighter IS able to continue a ref is in his rights to call a halt to a bout on an illegal shot like that.


    Be that as it may, it is also the responsibility of the various athletic commissions to review fights for consistency.

    One sport, one rule book.


    The rules state it's the ref's discretion.

    Rules of Boxing - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

    "A violation of the following rules is considered a foul, and can result in a point deduction or disqualification"
    Cool, and thank you for the link.

    But even in the case of discretion, isn't that reviewable? In American sports (college and professional), every "judgment" call made by a ref is 100% reviewable by the governing body.

    I watched an interview from someone in a boxing commission talking about the lopsided scorecards in the Malignaggi v. Dias I fight, and the guy said they review every fight they put on...and in this case he admitted that judge had a bad night.
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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    Or more importantly:
    ''If the foul results in an injury that causes the fight to end immediately, the boxer who committed the foul is disqualified.''

    Well there you go. Job jobbed I guess.


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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    Boxing should atleast be consistant. If they are going to DQ abs then DQ Maragarito, Tyson. Marcianao etc.

    Why award Dirrell and Griffin just because they are good actors ( Griffin more so, Dirrels act needs a little more work )

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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    I should be clear I am all for reform, because in reality we don't have one set of rules. Rules vary state to state and country to country based on the athletic commission of jurisdiction and further by the presiding sanctioning bodies and further from the private contracts of the fighters which is all left up to the judgment of the ref to enforce those rules. Cheating is common still and you'd be hard pressed to find a fighter that doesn't break the rules in one way or another.
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    Default Re: What are the grounds for DQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I should be clear I am all for reform, because in reality we don't have one set of rules. Rules vary state to state and country to country based on the athletic commission of jurisdiction and further by the presiding sanctioning bodies and further from the private contracts of the fighters which is all left up to the judgment of the ref to enforce those rules. Cheating is common still and you'd be hard pressed to find a fighter that doesn't break the rules in one way or another.

    yep

    In the UK you tend to see per ratio more out and out barnyard fights because our rules are pretty lenient. Head to germany and its a total reverse, almost everything is punishable under their sanctions.

    America (vegas imparticularly) seem to have found the middle ground which is why i usually prefer to see fights across the pond. But thinking about it i wouldnt wanna lose british boxings sense of identity even if our rules can at times seem a tad crazy

    Had the scenario from saturday had happened in the UK i genuinelyfear under the BBBoC it would of been declared as a non contest
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